[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Stuge
Piotr Król wrote: > I don't understand argument about running significant ("enough") of > the infrastructure. Why maintainers of platforms do not run their > part of infrastructure which support those platforms? I think this is a key point. It's a lot easier to develop centralized solutions, so

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Piotr Król
On 5/6/21 11:34 PM, Nico Huber wrote: > Hi Piotr, Hi Nico, > > it feels like we are discussing the wrong things here. I've also looked > at the Gerrit discussion[1]. We are discussing solutions, while the root > cause is not understood yet. Of course it was not my intention to push any

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Stuge
Nico Huber wrote: > > Another idea brought up was to require that such changes come with > > documentation and, ideally, migration support in the form of scripts and > > the like. We had something like this in the past[2] and I created a > > proposal[3] to establish it as a rule and build a

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Piotr Król
On 5/6/21 2:43 PM, Patrick Georgi wrote: > Am Do., 6. Mai 2021 um 14:03 Uhr schrieb Piotr Król > mailto:piotr.k...@3mdeb.com>>: > > If 3mdeb maintains some boards, we already testing those and would be > glad to hook, in secure way, to patch testing system, but I would like > to

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Nico Huber
Hi Piotr, it feels like we are discussing the wrong things here. I've also looked at the Gerrit discussion[1]. We are discussing solutions, while the root cause is not understood yet. On 06.05.21 00:13, Piotr Król wrote: > There are many reasons for rebasing or updating firmware to name few >

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Do., 6. Mai 2021 um 14:03 Uhr schrieb Piotr Król : > If 3mdeb maintains some boards, we already testing those and would be > glad to hook, in secure way, to patch testing system, but I would like > to know where is interface documentation so I can evaluate cost of > integration and convince

[coreboot] Re: [RFC] How should we manage tree-wide changes?

2021-05-06 Thread Piotr Król
On 5/6/21 1:35 AM, Julius Werner wrote: >>> As an >>> open source project, coreboot doesn't have anywhere near the resources >>> to do enough QA to guarantee that the tip of the master branch (or any >>> branch or tag, for that matter) was stable enough to be shipped in a >>> product at any