Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-30 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
> I know that an i7-820QM (Clarksfield) is perfectly capable of working > with 8 GB DIMMs and probably up to 32 GB or even more (the Thinkpad > W510 has 4 DIMM slots and I have tested it with 20 GB) and that is from > around the same time as the Arrendale chips - which does not mean > anything but*

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-29 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
> The T410s does have only two slots (NB: T410 is a completely different > model with a different casing). The 4-slot system is the W510 with the > clarkdale i7 CPU that does not have coreboot support at all. Sorry for my ignorance. I know very well (more than) in many aspects INTEL CPU CORE and A

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-29 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 07:15:18 +0100 Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote: > > The current raminit for Nehalem in coreboot is not able to train the two > > 8 GB DIMMs I have tested so far. I have added a debug output to > > choose_reg178 in the first loop before the margins are compared to > > STANDARD_MIN_MA

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
> Both CPUs have PAE support, yes, but I think I have never even tried to > boot a 32-bit kernel on them :) This is one missing info. Because, so far, if you did not know, there are two types of 32-bit kernels: normal 32 bit, and PAE 32 bit. But, in contrary, x86_64 has only one type of kernel sup

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Andrey Korolyov
> Not sure if I interpret "within an entire family" correctly, but the > online specs for the 820QM are clearly wrong Yes, this statement is very blurry - I thought about artificial memory limitations like ones in C2000 Atom server series - there are almost identical models (C2530 and C2550 for ex

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:01:05 +0100 Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote: > Hello Stefan, > > Let me ask you for some other stuff, since I would like to put what I wrote > initially to hold (sleep state, for now). > > You wrote: *The official specs are not trustworthy IMHO and cpuid(1) and > /proc/cpuinfo

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:01:09 +0300 Andrey Korolyov wrote: > > The chipset in the (QC version of the) W510 is actually exactly the same as > > in the X201 and T410s: Ibex Peak. > > > > But CPUs we are looking at *are* actually different Of course - I did not bring up chipsets ;) I am also not

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
Hello Stefan, Let me ask you for some other stuff, since I would like to put what I wrote initially to hold (sleep state, for now). You wrote: *The official specs are not trustworthy IMHO and cpuid(1) and /proc/cpuinfo **show the same physical address width of 36 bits (which would indicate a **ma

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sun, 22 Jan 2017 12:33:08 +0100 Zoran Stojsavljevic wrote: > Hello Stefan, > > In addition what Charlotte wrote to you, I would advise you the following > (as general approach for mem problems): > [1] Please, for testing the memory, use secondary Coreboot payload called > MEMTEST: > [user@loc

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Andrey Korolyov
> The chipset in the (QC version of the) W510 is actually exactly the same as > in the X201 and T410s: Ibex Peak. > But CPUs we are looking at *are* actually different - scale-down could mean an exposure of a previously unaccounted design issue which actually prevented 32nm CPU 'upgrade' to work r

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-28 Thread Stefan Tauner
On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 18:46:00 -0500 Charlotte Plusplus wrote: > Addressing over 8G is not supported by the chipset used on nehalem thinkpad > laptops (X201) > > Stupid limitation, but it is not the CPU fault. Please don't spread FUD if you don't know what you are talking about. Neither the RAM i

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-22 Thread Zoran Stojsavljevic
Hello Stefan, In addition what Charlotte wrote to you, I would advise you the following (as general approach for mem problems): [1] Please, for testing the memory, use secondary Coreboot payload called MEMTEST: [user@localhost coreboot]$ cat .config | grep MEMTEST CONFIG_MEMTEST_SECONDARY_PAYLOAD=

Re: [coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-21 Thread Charlotte Plusplus
Addressing over 8G is not supported by the chipset used on nehalem thinkpad laptops (X201) Stupid limitation, but it is not the CPU fault. On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 5:55 AM, Stefan Tauner < stefan.tau...@alumni.tuwien.ac.at> wrote: > Hi Vladimir, > > since you have REed the raminit for Nehalem I

[coreboot] 8 GB DIMMs on Nehalem (Arrandale)

2017-01-21 Thread Stefan Tauner
Hi Vladimir, since you have REed the raminit for Nehalem I'd like you to ask if you have any knowledge, information or pointers about using 8 GB DIMMs with it or even using more than 8 GB in total. In my case it is about an Arrandale i5-520M (in a Thinkpad 410s). I know that an i7-820QM (Clarksfi