Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 23/03/2018, Thierry Laurion wrote: > If ... ME is disabled with its modules erased, could > the maker pursue the seller for having made those modifications? Interesting question. ThinkPenguin seems to be willing to take that risk, but hedges it by voiding the

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On Sun, March 25, 2018 3:21 pm, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote: > On 03/23/2018 05:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > >> Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME. >> > That is not a binary yes/no fact. > > > Depending of the ME version, it is possible to deactivate it. > The

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Le dim. 25 mars 2018 14:08, taii...@gmx.com a écrit : > On 03/25/2018 11:12 AM, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote: > > > For the KGPE-D16, an integration effort was made in Heads to support > > such board. > > > > https://github.com/osresearch/heads/issues/134 > > > > * OpenBMC

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 03/24/2018 09:21 AM, Alberto Bursi wrote: > I was writing within context of this mail thread. > > This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major > manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor > Engineering ever used Coreboot on server systems, so

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 03/25/2018 11:12 AM, thierry.laur...@gmail.com wrote: > For the KGPE-D16, an integration effort was made in Heads to support > such board. > > https://github.com/osresearch/heads/issues/134 > > * OpenBMC support merged into coreboot so the server can boot > * Flashrom support to flash

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On Sat, Mar 24, 2018 at 6:22 AM Alberto Bursi wrote: > I was writing within context of this mail thread. > > This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major > manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor > Engineering ever used

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Sorry for the previous mistypings. Redoing this mail properly. On 03/24/2018 07:41 PM, Thierry Laurion wrote: > Hi all, > > Le ven. 23 mars 2018 13:56, > a écrit : > > I am not a lawyer, but have some understanding of the

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 03/23/2018 05:22 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME. That is not a binary yes/no fact. Depending of the ME version, it is possible to deactivate it. The following x230 is not a server, but an example for older ME versions. The resulting

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

rboard, Talos is the best you can get. > > On 18-01-17 12:00:01, coreboot-requ...@coreboot.org wrote: >> Message: 2 >> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:29:18 +0100 >> From: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2...@gmx.net> >> To: Coreboot <coreboot@coreboot.or

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hi all, Le ven. 23 mars 2018 13:56, a écrit : > I am not a lawyer, but have some understanding of the relevant liability > law. This is not legal advice. > > If damage is cause to the hardware that the ME would have prevented, very > likely. Damage orevrntrd by

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

I was writing within context of this mail thread. This mail "thread" is about Coreboot on server systems, and no major manufacturer I know of, apart from IBM and the board from Raptor Engineering ever used Coreboot on server systems, so yeah, on server boards it is nearly always retrofitted by

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

It IS lying if you don't tell them you installed Coreboot and pretend the issue happened with UEFI. Also, manufacturer warranty does not cover damage done by the user, and flashing a third party firmware is usually enough to claim whatever happens to it afterwards it's your fault. In general,

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 23.03.2018 22:37, Alberto Bursi wrote: > I wanted to say what I said. > Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other OEM making commercial > servers I know of > is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or provide any support on their > hardware if you install Coreboot. What I was trying to tell

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 03/23/2018 06:33 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote: > Yeah, getting an RMA isn't hard if you just lie. Won't work for non-RMA > support requests though. It isn't lying if OEM never stated pre-purchase that you aren't allowed to flash your own firmware. It is the same as how many laptop OEM's want you

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Yeah, getting an RMA isn't hard if you just lie. Won't work for non-RMA support requests though. -Alberto On 03/23/2018 10:43 PM, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > On 03/23/2018 05:37 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote: > >> I wanted to say what I said. Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other >> OEM

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 03/23/2018 05:37 PM, Alberto Bursi wrote: > I wanted to say what I said. Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other > OEM making commercial servers I know of is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or > provide any support on their hardware if you install Coreboot. > Therefore any seller of

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

I wanted to say what I said. Dell, HP, Supermicro, Tyan, and whatever other OEM making commercial servers I know of is highly unlikely to accept a RMA or provide any support on their hardware if you install Coreboot. Therefore any seller of such devices would have to provide such support and

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Please also keep in mind that it is impossible to disable ME. *I am not a lawyer* In america the first sale law means you are allowed to do as you please with a device you purchased as long as you are not violating any EULA but if you somehow did the impossible and figured out how to execute code

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On 23.03.2018 20:28, Alberto Bursi wrote: > Of course they will have to be able to provide any warranty and support > over the devices they sell because Intel or whoever actually made the > server/board will not really support nor accept RMAs of stuff with > Coreboot on it. That's some

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Same "I am not a lawyer" disclaimer for what I'm going to say here. I don't think the seller can be held liable for anything, as long as they clearly stated what they did to the hardware they are selling. Of course they will have to be able to provide any warranty and support over the devices

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

I am not a lawyer, but have some understanding of the relevant liability law. This is not legal advice. If damage is cause to the hardware that the ME would have prevented, very likely. Same goes for any security holes opened by removing the ME. This is not a supported option by Intel, so

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hi all, Searching legal implications of reselling deblobbed hardware, and can't fight straight answers. If the bios is replaced, and ME is disabled with its modules erased, could the maker pursue the seller for having made those modifications? Thanks, Thierry Le mar. 23 janv. 2018 13:56,

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 4 cores, SMT4. There's an 8-core available for $190 more, and AFAIK there are plans to start offering an 18-core server chip very shortly. These are the OpenPOWER machines, so there is hardware virtualization support (including I/O passthrough) that

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

how many cores is that? Does it come with LPAR? On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:48 PM taii...@gmx.com wrote: > In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2 > single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K. > > I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

In case anyone wants to know the (non-coreboot) libre firmware TALOS 2 single CPU/board combo is now only 2.5K. I still can't figure out how they managed to make it so affordable, this is seriously great. -- coreboot mailing list: coreboot@coreboot.org

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On Thu, January 18, 2018 6:37 pm, Nico Huber wrote: > Generally, you can expect microservers with coreboot nowadays (anything > supported by Intel's IoT group). If you're talking IoT range, AMD APU Coreboot can be seen at http://www.pcengines.ch/apu2.htm for example. -- coreboot mailing

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hi Carl-Daniel, On 16.01.2018 19:29, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping > servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately > neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. If said > person could

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hello Felix, and all, > Le 18 janv. 2018 à 04:17, Felix Held a écrit : > > Hi Carl-Daniel! > >> At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping >> servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately >> neither remember the server

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hi Carl-Daniel! At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. This might be related:

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At the end of the day, though, this is rather like a rooted iPhone, or running custom software on a TiVo via a hack. It's far from a full open stack and while it may have some utility / advantages for server operators, for the average person I don't

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:29:18PM +0100, Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote: > [...] > At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping > servers with coreboot without announcing this, and I unfortunately > neither remember the server model nor who told me about this. Hi,

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

reboot.org> Subject: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot Message-ID: <d5d6d8ee-77ee-4232-a89a-e5158140b...@gmx.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, does anyone have a list of server systems which are shipped with coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI sys

Re: [coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

one have a list of server systems which are shipped with > coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI systems, coreboot+Linux > systems, coreboot+SeaBIOS systems, pure coreboot systems. > > At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping > servers with coreboot with

[coreboot] Server systems shipped with coreboot

Hi, does anyone have a list of server systems which are shipped with coreboot? I'm interested in coreboot+UEFI systems, coreboot+Linux systems, coreboot+SeaBIOS systems, pure coreboot systems. At 34C3 I was told by someone that a major vendor has been shipping servers with coreboot without