Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Mo., 26. Nov. 2018 um 11:32 Uhr schrieb Patrick Georgi < pgeo...@google.com>: > Am So., 25. Nov. 2018 um 17:14 Uhr schrieb taii...@gmx.com < > taii...@gmx.com>: > >> You're referring to the dependencies for crossgcc? >> > That's a good point, I'll see that I'll set up a mirror for those. > See

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-26 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am So., 25. Nov. 2018 um 17:14 Uhr schrieb taii...@gmx.com : > I can agree yes some stuff that clearly no longer works should be > removed from master but people were talking about for instance removing > the native fam15h boards KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8 (last and best owner > controlled libre

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-25 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 11/23/2018 10:28 AM, Felix Held wrote: > I get the impressions that a few people are quite vocal on the mailing > list about keeping stuff in the master branch that fell into disrepair > and hinders the project in moving forward and improving things. I can agree yes some stuff that clearly no

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-23 Thread Felix Held
Hi! Seems that I forgot to send this e-mail, so here's a rather late response: By removing open-source AGESA and all boards that use them, you would remove many boards that can boot blobless (like KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8, there's also cheap low-end like E350M1, although I'm not sure this uses

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-12 Thread ron minnich
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018 at 7:53 AM wrote: > > Anyway I think that it is stupid to get offensive and confrontational with > the coreboot comunity even if it gets more and more Intel oriented.. > so is this statement based on a measurement or just your impression? I count 181 mainboard

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Nico Huber
On 11/11/18 5:42 PM, Piotr Kubaj via coreboot wrote: > The size of AGESA is currently about 10% of coreboot. Nico, do you > think a single person working in spare time can reimplement 10% of > coreboot? I don't care how much it looks like. It's likely bloated vendor code. For instance, look at

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread kinky_nekoboi
BTW does anybody now if IOMMU ever has worked on F2A85M. Its kinda frustrating that there is nobody who seems to use this board. is it maybe only broken on the richland core since i use a A8-6600K Am 12. November 2018 00:46:26 MEZ schrieb Nico Huber : >On 11/11/18 2:52 PM, eche...@free.fr

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Nico Huber
On 11/11/18 2:52 PM, eche...@free.fr wrote: > So by force of circumstances, unfortunately, we can expect that the > g505s (of other agesa based boards) will indeed be dropped from the > coreboot master in the near future.. That's not what I said or intended to say (we might know if ppl.

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Nico Huber
On 11/11/18 4:09 AM, kinky_nekoboi wrote: > I strongly agree to what Mike said. > thats maybe the "i want a cheap but yet powerfull and as Free as > possible" point of view. > > Also with the recent AMDGPU driver for linux. amd hardware is a good > option to have a somewhat powerful and free

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Nico Huber
On 11/11/18 12:41 AM, Mike Banon wrote: >> There is no evidence that there is such a thing for Intel systems with AMT >> disabled, either. > > But it is easier not to have any AMT/ME/PSP at all: no need to clean > anything and nothing to worry about. > >> I could secure it with a hyper-visor, I

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Piotr Kubaj via coreboot
@Nico By removing open-source AGESA and all boards that use them, you would remove many boards that can boot blobless (like KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8, there's also cheap low-end like E350M1, although I'm not sure this uses AGESA). This would mean that if we want blobless, we can either use much less

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread taii...@gmx.com
If you want an owner controlled coreboot-libre firmware (coreboot isn't always foss) available board get a kcma-d8, kgpe-d16, etc. or one of the raptor computing systems OpenPOWER boards which have foss firmware (not coreboot) from the factory, documentation and are owner controlled. You can

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am So., 11. Nov. 2018 um 14:54 Uhr schrieb : > We (the owners of agesa based boards) need to prepare for this > eventuality, and maybe if we want to keep coreboot alive (and evolving) on > our platforms we should consider a fork... Please don't insult me for this > for this reasoning (it is not

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-11 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am So., 11. Nov. 2018 um 00:43 Uhr schrieb Mike Banon : > But it is easier not to have any AMT/ME/PSP at all: no need to clean > anything and nothing to worry about. > At least not to your knowledge. For all we know, POWER9 (to pick the ISA where you can even edit the microcode) could have

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-10 Thread kinky_nekoboi
oards >> > without Intel ME + full complex set of their blobs (FSP etc.) >> >> That's unlikely. The support for pre-ME/FSP Intel boards shows that >> maintaining 10y+ old platforms can be fun and works out very well. >The >> (AMD) platforms are not the problem. Maybe th

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-10 Thread Mike Banon
the problem is that their > fans got lazy and rested on AGESA, idk. > > >> The last time I worked on a bigger patch set in my spare time, I nearly > >> gave up after some nights of work because of the unmaintainable mess > >> around {cpu,nb,sb}/amd/ > > >

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-09 Thread Patrick Georgi via coreboot
Am Fr., 9. Nov. 2018 um 19:29 Uhr schrieb Nico Huber : > stand your biased bullshit. I'd prefer the list to remain friendlier than that. > So I'm looking for arguments against AMD > when I see your unfounded arguments against Intel. Not because I don't > like AMD but because I don't like this

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-09 Thread Nico Huber
ases or if you > aren't interested at AMD boards (understandable if you don't have any), > you could use something like "ifdef INTEL_BOARD then Enable_Feature_X > else Dont_Enable". Better to live without some not-essential features > than removing the boards, especially since there re

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-09 Thread Mike Banon
etter to live without some not-essential features than removing the boards, especially since there really aren't a lot of coreboot-supported motherboards. > I believe it's only a question of time until coreboot maintainers are finally > fed up with it. The majority of platform-specific

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-08 Thread Nico Huber
On 11/8/18 3:29 PM, Mike Banon wrote: > Please consider AMD Lenovo G505S laptop: all the hardware > virtualizations AMD-V / SLAT / IOMMU are fully supported there > (although you have to install a microcode update to avoid the possible > glitches), no Intel ME / AMD PSP, quad-core CPU, 16GB DDR3

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-08 Thread Kinky Nekoboi
seems like it was quite silent around these board in the mailing list except my emails. the first rom i test was send me by vid...@gmail.com it was labeled coreboot_asus_f2a85-m_1532513585.rom .. i dont know if this is the commit code of it. this one was working it think also with IOMMU but it

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-08 Thread Mike Banon
A10-5750M CPU of AMD Lenovo G505S laptop is from the same Richland 15h family as your F2A85M-* , and its' southbridge A76M should be also very similar to what you have: its' Bolton-M3 but there's a relatively small difference between these Bolton and Hudson since they are from the same family of

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-08 Thread kinky_nekoboi
hello mike that are great news! it would be nice if this success would benefit the hudson boards (f2a85m-*) too. IOMMU and Raminit(no dual channel) even with microcode are still buggy as hell. But at least this port makes my home workstation as fast and blobfree as possible. greetings the

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-08 Thread Mike Banon
Please consider AMD Lenovo G505S laptop: all the hardware virtualizations AMD-V / SLAT / IOMMU are fully supported there (although you have to install a microcode update to avoid the possible glitches), no Intel ME / AMD PSP, quad-core CPU, 16GB DDR3 RAM possible, recent build_status report, and

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread Timothy Pearson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 11/07/2018 01:56 PM, kinky_nekoboi wrote: > sounds promissing i will give it a deeper look later. > this makes the SNB/IVY platform much more attractive to me. > thx for the information. Be aware there's still an Intel ME requirement for those

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread kinky_nekoboi
sounds promissing i will give it a deeper look later. this makes the SNB/IVY platform much more attractive to me. thx for the information. Am 7. November 2018 20:10:58 MEZ schrieb Angel Pons : >Hello nekoboi, > >On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:53 PM Kinky Nekoboi > wrote: >> >> Did not know it that

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread Angel Pons
Hello nekoboi, On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 7:53 PM Kinky Nekoboi wrote: > > Did not know it that there is a replacement for FSP. > > Was it Reserve-engineered? i just recently build a working rom for my > W520 with the afford to reduce as much blobs as possible. shined me and > stuff. > > is there

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread Kinky Nekoboi
Did not know it that there is a replacement for FSP. Was it Reserve-engineered? i just recently build a working rom for my W520 with the afford to reduce as much blobs as possible. shined me and stuff. is there any way to find out if my rom was build without FSP ? with cbfstool or something?

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread Angel Pons
Hello, Currently board_status only lists the main variant for each board, which means boards with variants (which may be somewhat different) are not listed there. On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 5:39 PM kinky_nekoboi wrote: > > as far as i know it uses xen? so you need AMD-V or Intel VT-x + VT-d > i

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread Kinky Nekoboi
kinda... the wiki and the supported board lists are maintained by devs in their freetime i guess so it is not always 100% up to date. u can see all target board currently supported (more or less ) in the nconfig build menu while compieling coreboot. Am 07.11.18 um 17:37 schrieb J Clamp: > > I

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread kinky_nekoboi
as far as i know it uses xen? so you need AMD-V or Intel VT-x + VT-d i think and sandy/ivy bridge platform with fsp blob would fit this needs best there is the asus maximus ... and there is the T520 with a vpro cpu with feeds this needs best i guess Am 7. November 2018 17:33:40 MEZ schrieb J

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread kinky_nekoboi
Hi J.Clamp, what kind of usecase to u have for your mainboard? I use the G41m-es2l for my homeserver. It supports core 2 quad CPUs and has 2 DDR2 slots. Also it is usable without any nonfree blobs. if u need something more powerful look for the ivy bridge boards or one that does support the 15th

[coreboot] Supported Motherboards

2018-11-07 Thread J Clamp via coreboot
Hi all, I am new to coreboot and was looking for a motherboard that would support coreboot. I have checked and looked at this page but I don't know if coreboot is supported on all of these motherboards or if only certain motherboards support coreboot? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here

[coreboot] Supported Motherboards Wiki bot down

2015-01-29 Thread Timothy Pearson
All, Not sure who this should be addressed to but it seems that the bot that updates the Supported Motherboards page is down and, judging from the page history, may have been down for over a week: http://www.coreboot.org/index.php?title=Supported_Motherboardsaction=history I added a

[coreboot] Supported Motherboards with SMM

2012-06-06 Thread Fengwei Zhang
Hi All, My name is Fengwei. For one of my research project, I need a relative new Coreboot supported board with SMM working. I am wondering if there is a list of Coreboot supported boards with SMM working. I have been working with board ASUS M2V-MX_SE, which supports SMM by applying Ruldof's

Re: [coreboot] Supported Motherboards with SMM

2012-06-06 Thread Stefan Reinauer
On 6/6/12 11:28 AM, Fengwei Zhang wrote: Hi All, My name is Fengwei. For one of my research project, I need a relative new Coreboot supported board with SMM working. I am wondering if there is a list of Coreboot supported boards with SMM working. I have been working with board ASUS M2V-MX_SE,