Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-23 Thread Charles Devereaux
On https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP:
tp-smapi is needed for battery charge thresholds

That would be something interesting to tweak - without tp-smapi, which is
not supported at the moment


On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 9:37 AM, The Gluglug i...@gluglug.org.uk wrote:

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 So far we have workarounds (idle=halt or processor.max_cstate=2 kernel
 parameter, or 'powertop --auto-tune').

 I am fully aware that these are workarounds, not solutions.

 A libreboot user also reported that the following programme can be
 used (in the same way as powertop):
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP

 Might be worth looking into.
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Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-22 Thread Nico Huber

Hi folks,

I haven't followed the previous discussion on this matter, so one
question: Is this a coreboot issue? If this noise doesn't occur with
the vendor firmware, has anybody checked if coreboot uses the same
power management timing settings? (e.g. C4-TIMING_CNT, see [1], there
might be more such settings not mentioned in the public datasheet)

Regards,
Nico

[1] Intel I/O Controller Hub 7 (ICH7) Family Datasheet
Document Number: 307013-003


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Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-22 Thread Peter Stuge
Nico Huber wrote:
 Is this a coreboot issue?

Partially.


 has anybody checked if coreboot uses the same power management
 timing settings?

No, but I'm quite sure that it does not.


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Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-22 Thread ron minnich
These power supply issues are quite fun, like other things. The mistake
would be to say that, because there is noise, coreboot is wrong and vendor
firmware is right. It can be far more subtle than that. It could even be
the case that coreboot is right, the vendor code is wrong, and the
correction is eliciting noise because coreboot has revealed some other
problem.

I can't tell you how many times we've looked at, e.g., u-boot for some ARM,
realized we had no idea why the code in question (vendor code) ever worked,
and fixed it. And found some other issue, somewhere else, because of the
fix.

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Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-22 Thread Peter Stuge
ron minnich wrote:
 wrong
 right

It's way too early for that Ron. At this point nobody even
understands wtf is causing the problem. Someone competent
needs to research that before a discussion about the solution.


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Re: [coreboot] high-pitched whine on x60/t60

2014-07-22 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote:

 ron minnich wrote:
  wrong
  right

 It's way too early for that Ron. At this point nobody even
 understands wtf is causing the problem. Someone competent
 needs to research that before a discussion about the solution.


I'm not discussing a solution. Read my note.  I'm saying that it's way to
early to connect noise/lack of noise with coreboot being wrong or vendor
firmware being right, as one writer said. These are not simple issues.

ron
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