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2018-07-17 Thread Mary Redline via CoTyroneList 

A big thank you to those of you who are helping members find their County 
Tyrone ancestors.  I have been researching some on my mother's lines and one 
line comes from County Tyrone.  I do not have a town or parish name (the family 
was Catholic) for researching further.  Here is what I know from records in 
Ohio.
 
Barbara Shakey (this would be her married name; in none of the records is a 
husband mentioned, so I'm thinking she might be a widow).  According to various 
census records, she would have been born in Ireland ca. 1770.  However, her 
tombstone at Holy Trinity Cemetery, Somerset, Perry County, OH lists her dates 
as 1762-1861.  She was interred 24 March 1861, aged 99 years.  
 
She was the mother of at least three children, born in Ireland.
--Hugh Sharkey, b. 4 May 1799 (was 39 years, 10 months and 11 days at the time 
of his death on 15 March, 1839).  His mother Barbara was listed as the executor 
to his will and his tombstone includes, "A Native of County Tyrone."
--Elizabeth Sharkey.  When her only daughter Barbara died 26 August 1844 in 
Ohio, Barbara (the elder) was listed as her mother and Teresa Dean as her 
sister.
--Teresa (Tessa) Sharkey Dean--this is my direct line.  Born around 1815-1817 
depending on various records; census records state that she was born in 
Ireland.  On 13 February 1838, she married Hugh Dean in Perry County, Ohio.
 
Perry County was formed in 1818, at which there was also established St. 
Joseph's Church.  Hence, many Catholics settled in the area as they could 
practice their faith.  In this church's records, Hugh Sharkey is listed as a 
sponsor in 1831 and 1832, so presumably the family emigrated from Ireland 
before then.  There are other Sharkeys listed in the record, but I could not 
establish a link with them to Barbara Sharkey:  Catharine Sharkey, Margaret 
Sharkey, Sara Sharkey, and William Sharkey.  
 
I would be very appreciative of any leads to tracing this family line.  Thank 
you.
 
Mary Redline
Breinigsville, Pennsylvania, USA

 
 
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I checked irish roots website. The family were living in Tremoge which is a 
town land just outside Carrickmore. Roberta


On 16 July 2018, at 19:03, Carrie Mahan via CoTyroneList 
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From: Carrie Mahan 
Date: Mon, Jul 16, 2018, 10:53 AM
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My husband and I are traveling to county Tyrone in September.  We are looking 
for the Meenans, some of whom emigrated to Philadelphia in the 1880's. 
Specifically,  we are looking for Michael meenan and Margaret Morris meenan, of 
carrickmore. As far as we can tell, Michael and Margaret had 6 sons. Owen,  
born in 1861, emigrated to Philadelphia and died there in 1916. Michael meenan 
jr., born 1865,  was 30 and never married according to the 1901 census  (which 
we hope is the right one! ) frank  (most likely Francis,  was born in 1872, 
emigrated to Philadelphia in 1880 and became a naturalized citizen in 1895. He 
died in Philadelphia in 1930. Frank was my husband's great grandfather.  There 
was also John,  born 1873, and Joseph,  born 1875. There is no record of either 
of them emigrating.  We think that michael was the head of the clan. We don't 
want to go to the wrong area. Please let me know what you know! Thanks,  Carrie 
Mahan  (husband's name was changed from meenan by his f
 ather ).

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

2018-07-17 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList 
Linda,

Nathaniel and William Stinson are both recorded at Donamoney  in the 1833 
Clonfeacle Parish tithe applotment book; see my index 
http://www.cotyroneireland.com/tithe/t-a-clonfeacle.html You will be able to 
obtain a description of the leases and tithes paid online at a LDS FHC

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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I am now heartened that you found records for Patti.  I have been trying to go 
back beyond my great great grandfather Nathaniel Steenson (and his wife 
Margaret Templeton) (and get more info on Nathaniel).

I am going to the genealogy library in San Diego today. Where do you suggest I 
look?  They have more resources than I do. I assume the Steenson’s came from 
Scotland in the 1600s when the Ulster plantations were created.

Nathaniel is listed with two sons in Griffiths Valuation (last name listed as 
Steenson).  His lessor was William Carberry, Earl of Charelmont in the barony 
of Middle Dungannon, parish of Clonfeacle, townland of Dunamony. He was born 
“about” 1801 and died December 17, 1873. I don’t have accurate information on 
his wife.

His son, William Stenson/Steenson was born in 1836 in Armagh and emigrated to 
America with his wife Isabella Eakin and their children (his son George was 
born in Oregon and is my paternal grandfather. He died in Iregon in 1915.

I cannot find emigration records except for a passenger list on the Utopia that 
landed in New York (from Glasgow, Scotland) August 27, 1874.


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On Jul 16, 2018, at 9:46 AM, Boyd Gray via CoTyroneList 
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wrote:

Tee hee born 1850, no wonder I could not find him.  He was hardly "a child" 
when he emigrated in 1880!!

So, here is his Philly death cert:

Name: Rev James Trainor
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 59
Birth Date: 1856
Birth Place: Ireland
Death Date: 18 Jan 1916
Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: James Trainor
Mother: Mary Mc Carron
Certificate Number: 14012

with the details such as mother's maiden name, needed to help locate him in 
Ireland, except that he was born before civil records began in 1864, which 
complicates matters.

Luckily, RootsIreland has the records for his local church online, so here is 
his baptism:

 Church Baptism Record
Name: James Trenor Date of Birth:
  Date of Baptism: 26-Nov-1854
Address: Seskinore Parish/District: BERAGH
Gender: Unknown County TYRONE
Father: James Trenor Mother: Mary Mccarron
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Daniel
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Margaret Gallagher

And here is his father in the GV:

Griffith's Valuation Record Information
Tenant
Family Name 1 TRAYNOR
Forename 1 JAMES
Landlord
Family Name 2 MCCLINTOCK
Forename 2 GEORGE P.
Location
County TYRONE
Barony OMAGH, EAST
Union OMAGH
Parish CLOGHERNY
Townland SESKINORE
Place Name SESKINORE
Place Type TOWNLAND
Publication Details
Position on Page 4
Printing Date 1860
Act 15&16
Sheet Number 43,51
Map Reference 38
James Traynor senior had a small 8 acre farm.

And that means, you can find exactly where he lived using the maps at :

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

Now, if you want to find out if he had family left in the area, you need to 
start chasing up those Tranors using the GVRBs and then the two censuses of 
1901 and 1911.

Hope this helps, Patricia.

Boyd

https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/

https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/

http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/



On 16 July 2018 at 16:26, Barbara Finizia via CoTyroneList 
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wrote:
Philadelphia Inquirer
Sunday, Jan 02, 1916
Philadelphia, PA
Vol: 174
Issue: 2
Page: 14

Is his obit Patricia
If you need a copy Patricia I will copy

Barbara

James F Trainor
Born 1850
Ordained 1881

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:01 AM, dm60--- via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:
Hi Pati

One of the gurus at the Ulster Historical Foundation (or still linked to the 
UHF) is Dr Brian Trainor, one time head of PRONI.

Can't  be much on Trainor in Ireland that Brian hasn't encountered or dabbled 
with in his extensive career!

Warm regards


Dave Mitchell
UGHG No.202


From: "Mary Redline via CoTyroneList" 
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To: cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
Cc: "Mary Redline" mailto:discer...@aol.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 03:47:07 PM

Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

Dear Patricia:

Did you try contacting the archdiocese in Philadelphia to see if they

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] CoTyroneList Digest, Vol 215, Issue 1

2018-07-17 Thread Len Swindley via CoTyroneList 
Boyd and Patti,

Who is this?
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
CIVIL REGISTRATION OF BIRTHS
DISTRICT OF SIXMILECROSS, UNION OF OMAGH, CO. TYRONE
Born Beragh, February 8 1865 JAMES TREANOR, Father: PATRICK TREANOR, Railway 
Porter, Mother: ANN TREANOR (formerly McCARRON) Registered by father Feb 29 1865

Just throwing this into the mix……or am I missing something? This birth is 
registered nine years after the 1856 birth, but with parents Treanor and 
McCarron.

Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia


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Tee hee born 1850, no wonder I could not find him.  He was hardly "a child" 
when he emigrated in 1880!!

So, here is his Philly death cert:

Name: Rev James Trainor
Gender: Male
Race: White
Age: 59
Birth Date: 1856
Birth Place: Ireland
Death Date: 18 Jan 1916
Death Place: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Father: James Trainor
Mother: Mary Mc Carron
Certificate Number: 14012

with the details such as mother's maiden name, needed to help locate him in 
Ireland, except that he was born before civil records began in 1864, which 
complicates matters.

Luckily, RootsIreland has the records for his local church online, so here is 
his baptism:

 Church Baptism Record
Name: James Trenor Date of Birth:
  Date of Baptism: 26-Nov-1854
Address: Seskinore Parish/District: BERAGH
Gender: Unknown County TYRONE
Father: James Trenor Mother: Mary Mccarron
Occupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1: Daniel
Sponsor 2 /
Informant 2: Margaret Gallagher

And here is his father in the GV:

Griffith's Valuation Record Information
Tenant
Family Name 1 TRAYNOR
Forename 1 JAMES
Landlord
Family Name 2 MCCLINTOCK
Forename 2 GEORGE P.
Location
County TYRONE
Barony OMAGH, EAST
Union OMAGH
Parish CLOGHERNY
Townland SESKINORE
Place Name SESKINORE
Place Type TOWNLAND
Publication Details
Position on Page 4
Printing Date 1860
Act 15&16
Sheet Number 43,51
Map Reference 38
James Traynor senior had a small 8 acre farm.

And that means, you can find exactly where he lived using the maps at :

http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

Now, if you want to find out if he had family left in the area, you need to 
start chasing up those Tranors using the GVRBs and then the two censuses of 
1901 and 1911.

Hope this helps, Patricia.

Boyd

https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/

https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/

http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/



On 16 July 2018 at 16:26, Barbara Finizia via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:
Philadelphia Inquirer
Sunday, Jan 02, 1916
Philadelphia, PA
Vol: 174
Issue: 2
Page: 14

Is his obit Patricia
If you need a copy Patricia I will copy

Barbara

James F Trainor
Born 1850
Ordained 1881

On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 11:01 AM, dm60--- via CoTyroneList 
mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> 
wrote:
Hi Pati

One of the gurus at the Ulster Historical Foundation (or still linked to the 
UHF) is Dr Brian Trainor, one time head of PRONI.

Can't  be much on Trainor in Ireland that Brian hasn't encountered or dabbled 
with in his extensive career!

Warm regards


Dave Mitchell
UGHG No.202


From: "Mary Redline via CoTyroneList" 
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To: cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com
Cc: "Mary Redline" mailto:discer...@aol.com>>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 03:47:07 PM

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Dear Patricia:

Did you try contacting the archdiocese in Philadelphia to see if they have any 
files or additional information for him?




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Help!
   I have written to 3 parishes in Tyrone, Omagh, trying to locate the family 
of:
 James Trainor who left Omagh as a child circa 1880 with family for the USA 
via Cobh. Settled in Philadelphia. James became a Monsignor in the Philadelphia 
archdiocese.
  Haven't heard anything. Suggestions?
Pati Trainor Link
 A
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