Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever
Pat, One item I forgot to add was that Francis’s daughter Sarah Taggart (who married William McEgan or McKeegan in 1854) had at least 1 child. I noticed the birth of a daughter Margaret McKeegan to those parents, in Londonderry on 14.10.1867. There may well have been others between 1854 and 1863 but those years are before the start of statutory birth registration and so won’t be in the statutory records. Good luck with your search anyway. Elwyn On 19/08/2019, Pat via CoTyroneList wrote: > Elwyn, > Francis and his wife Mary and daughters emigrated to US in 1880. Mary died 6 > months later and Francis died 28 September 1883. Margaret b 1854 died in NYC > 10 November 1906. Jane died 8 October 1881 in NYC. They were both > seamstress. I will be in Ireland up that way on 22/23 September. I’ve been > to the PRONI in 2014 but didn’t find anything except that Francis parents > could be William and Anne Irwin. Can’t find anything about when where they > were married. I think Williams parents were Francis and Dorothy Taggart but > no proof. Thanks for the help. Pay > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 18, 2019, at 17:34, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList >> wrote: >> >> Looking at the PRONI catalogue of church records, there are 3 >> Presbyterian churches in Donagheady that the Taggart family might have >> attended. Donagheady 1st seems to have lost its early records and has >> nothing before 1875; Donagheady 2nd has records from 1838 and Donemana >> from 1856. If John was baptised around 1851 the only one with any >> records is obviously the 2nd. There’s a copy of those records in PRONI >> (the public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line there, so >> a personal visit is required to view them. >> >> Having said that, my hunch is that the family church was Donemana. >> That’s because Sarah Taggart from Liscloon (presumably a sister to >> John) married there on 25.11.1854. Her husband was William McEgan from >> Kildoge. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, so >> probably/possibly it’s the Taggart family church. If so, it seems >> unlikely there’s any record of John’s baptism. However you may get >> some of his siblings if they were born after 1855. >> >> I note from the Valuation revision records that Francis Taggart’s name >> remains against plot 8a (an agricultural labourer’s cottage) in >> Liscloon Lower until 1877. He presumably either moved or died around >> that year. >> >> There were no Taggarts in Liscloon Lower in the 1901 census. >> >> >> >> Elwyn >> >> >> On 18/08/2019, Pat O’Fallon via CoTyroneList >> wrote: >>> I am looking for my great grandparents births. John Taggart lived in >>> Liscloon, Donaghedy Parish in June 1851. His parents were Francis Taggart >>> and Mary Breesen?Brisland married 2December1833 COI, Cumberland Upper, Co >>> Derry. In Griffiths Valuation Francis was a tenant of William Oligby. >>> John >>> immigrated to NYC in 1868. I have the US side but have only the GV on the >>> Irish side. Are there any Taggart’s still living there? John’s wife was >>> Margaret McKeever from Moneycannon. They were married in NYC in 1872 at a >>> Presbyterian Church so have to assume they were Presbyterian. She >>> immigrated >>> in 1870 with her mom Mary McLaughin. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Pat >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> ___ >>> CoTyroneList Mailing List >>> Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >>> Change Your Preferences: >>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >>> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >>> >> >> ___ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY > > > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY > ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
[CoTyroneMailingList] James Ewing and Elizabeth Bell
My thanks to Elwyn Soutter and Janet Fairless for their suggestions on how to proceed in searching for James Ewing (1803-1847) married to Elizabeth Bell (abt 1808-1842). Since I know so little of their history I’ve been focusing on William Ewing and his wife, Margery Hopper, two people who were closely associated with my ancestors in the town of Newton Hamilton, Mifflin, Pennsylvania, US. Ideally I can find an area in County Tyrone with Ewing, Bell and Hopper families as a place to begin. Elwyn pointed out that there is no Tullyvannon in the Parish of Errigal Keerogue, Tyrone. I had copied an error in another researcher’s post without checking it first. As Elwyn also points out, James and Elizabeth Bell EWING left Northern Ireland by 1826, and church and civil records may not exist for the time period. The correct locations mentioned for Denny Hopper, father-in-law of William Ewing in Newton Hamilton, are birth in Armalgughey, Civil Parish of Carnteel, County Tyrone; marriage in Ballygawley, Civil Parish of Errigal Keerogue, Tyrone; and then Tullyvannon, Civil Parish of Killeeshil, County Tyrone, where he resided later on. I don’t have any locations more specific for his son-in-law, William Ewing, than County Tyrone. Thank you, Janet, for starting the idea that family members did not always follow each other when they immigrated. That was not something I had considered. Karen Miller Wilmette, Illinois, USA ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever
Elwyn, Francis and his wife Mary and daughters emigrated to US in 1880. Mary died 6 months later and Francis died 28 September 1883. Margaret b 1854 died in NYC 10 November 1906. Jane died 8 October 1881 in NYC. They were both seamstress. I will be in Ireland up that way on 22/23 September. I’ve been to the PRONI in 2014 but didn’t find anything except that Francis parents could be William and Anne Irwin. Can’t find anything about when where they were married. I think Williams parents were Francis and Dorothy Taggart but no proof. Thanks for the help. Pay Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 18, 2019, at 17:34, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > Looking at the PRONI catalogue of church records, there are 3 > Presbyterian churches in Donagheady that the Taggart family might have > attended. Donagheady 1st seems to have lost its early records and has > nothing before 1875; Donagheady 2nd has records from 1838 and Donemana > from 1856. If John was baptised around 1851 the only one with any > records is obviously the 2nd. There’s a copy of those records in PRONI > (the public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line there, so > a personal visit is required to view them. > > Having said that, my hunch is that the family church was Donemana. > That’s because Sarah Taggart from Liscloon (presumably a sister to > John) married there on 25.11.1854. Her husband was William McEgan from > Kildoge. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, so > probably/possibly it’s the Taggart family church. If so, it seems > unlikely there’s any record of John’s baptism. However you may get > some of his siblings if they were born after 1855. > > I note from the Valuation revision records that Francis Taggart’s name > remains against plot 8a (an agricultural labourer’s cottage) in > Liscloon Lower until 1877. He presumably either moved or died around > that year. > > There were no Taggarts in Liscloon Lower in the 1901 census. > > > > Elwyn > > > On 18/08/2019, Pat O’Fallon via CoTyroneList > wrote: >> I am looking for my great grandparents births. John Taggart lived in >> Liscloon, Donaghedy Parish in June 1851. His parents were Francis Taggart >> and Mary Breesen?Brisland married 2December1833 COI, Cumberland Upper, Co >> Derry. In Griffiths Valuation Francis was a tenant of William Oligby. John >> immigrated to NYC in 1868. I have the US side but have only the GV on the >> Irish side. Are there any Taggart’s still living there? John’s wife was >> Margaret McKeever from Moneycannon. They were married in NYC in 1872 at a >> Presbyterian Church so have to assume they were Presbyterian. She immigrated >> in 1870 with her mom Mary McLaughin. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Pat >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> CoTyroneList Mailing List >> Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com >> Change Your Preferences: >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY >> > > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever
Looking at the PRONI catalogue of church records, there are 3 Presbyterian churches in Donagheady that the Taggart family might have attended. Donagheady 1st seems to have lost its early records and has nothing before 1875; Donagheady 2nd has records from 1838 and Donemana from 1856. If John was baptised around 1851 the only one with any records is obviously the 2nd. There’s a copy of those records in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. They are not on-line there, so a personal visit is required to view them. Having said that, my hunch is that the family church was Donemana. That’s because Sarah Taggart from Liscloon (presumably a sister to John) married there on 25.11.1854. Her husband was William McEgan from Kildoge. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church, so probably/possibly it’s the Taggart family church. If so, it seems unlikely there’s any record of John’s baptism. However you may get some of his siblings if they were born after 1855. I note from the Valuation revision records that Francis Taggart’s name remains against plot 8a (an agricultural labourer’s cottage) in Liscloon Lower until 1877. He presumably either moved or died around that year. There were no Taggarts in Liscloon Lower in the 1901 census. Elwyn On 18/08/2019, Pat O’Fallon via CoTyroneList wrote: > I am looking for my great grandparents births. John Taggart lived in > Liscloon, Donaghedy Parish in June 1851. His parents were Francis Taggart > and Mary Breesen?Brisland married 2December1833 COI, Cumberland Upper, Co > Derry. In Griffiths Valuation Francis was a tenant of William Oligby. John > immigrated to NYC in 1868. I have the US side but have only the GV on the > Irish side. Are there any Taggart’s still living there? John’s wife was > Margaret McKeever from Moneycannon. They were married in NYC in 1872 at a > Presbyterian Church so have to assume they were Presbyterian. She immigrated > in 1870 with her mom Mary McLaughin. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Pat > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > CoTyroneList Mailing List > Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com > Change Your Preferences: > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY > ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
[CoTyroneMailingList] Taggart/McKeever
I am looking for my great grandparents births. John Taggart lived in Liscloon, Donaghedy Parish in June 1851. His parents were Francis Taggart and Mary Breesen?Brisland married 2December1833 COI, Cumberland Upper, Co Derry. In Griffiths Valuation Francis was a tenant of William Oligby. John immigrated to NYC in 1868. I have the US side but have only the GV on the Irish side. Are there any Taggart’s still living there? John’s wife was Margaret McKeever from Moneycannon. They were married in NYC in 1872 at a Presbyterian Church so have to assume they were Presbyterian. She immigrated in 1870 with her mom Mary McLaughin. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Pat Sent from my iPhone ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] James Ewing and Elizabeth Bell
Karen, You say Dennis Hopper has been traced to Tullyvannon in the parish of Errigal Keerogue. I cannot find any Tullyvannon in Errigal Keerogue. The only Tullyvannon in Tyrone is in the parish of Killeeshil. Assuming Killeeshil is the parish the family lived in, the problem you face is the lack of church records for the period you need. I note that the Ewings were Presbyterian. There are 2 Presbyterian churches in the area. Clonaleese Upper has no records before 1860. Clonaleese Lower has baptisms from 1811 but no marriages before 1845. Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church. Hopper in Tyrone is mostly Presbyterian but there are some Church of Ireland families (in the 1901 census). If Marjory was Church of Ireland then the Killeeshil early records were destroyed in the 1922 fire in Dublin and they have nothing earlier than 1881. So if we have the right parish, the reason you are not able to trace the baptism and marriages you are interested in is probably because no records exist for that period. There’s no easy way around that. Elwyn On 18/08/2019, Karen Miller via CoTyroneList wrote: > I am trying to determine WHERE in County Tyrone my ancestors, James Ewing > and his wife Elizabeth Bell, came from. James Ewing was born about 1803 in > Northern Ireland, probably in County Tyrone, and died in Newton Hamilton, > Mifflin County, Pennsylvania, USA in 1847. He immigrated to the US with his > wife, Elizabeth Bell Ewing, and baby son, William R. Ewing, in 1826. I > haven’t been able to trace him. He is closely associated with William Ewing > who came to Newton Hamilton in 1836. Since I know a lot more about William > Ewing’s family than my own ancestor, I’ve been trying to establish a link > between the two men. I’d like advice on how to proceed. > > William Ewing was born 21 Jul 1802 in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland, and > was married to Marjory Hopper about 1829. The Hopper researchers have been > busy. Marjory Hopper’s father, Dennis Hopper, has been found in the Parish > of Errigal Keerogue and the Townland of Tullyvannon. I don’t have a > marriage record for William Ewing and Marjory Hopper, nor do I have one for > my ancestor, James Ewing and Elizabeth Bell who were probably married about > 1824 in County Tyrone. Both men were Presbyterians. > > I’d appreciate suggestions, and especially would like to hear from any other > Ewing researchers. > > Thank you > Karen Miller > Wilmette, Illinois, USA ___ CoTyroneList Mailing List Mailing List Email Address: CoTyroneList@cotyroneireland.com Change Your Preferences: http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com Mailing List Archive: https://goo.gl/mQCKrY
