Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList 
Linda, I got the Amazon version for $3.99 (AUD) and downloaded to my 
iPad. Gordon


On 25/06/2020 7:27 am, Marion via CoTyroneList wrote:

‘Bob was a Protestant Horse’ is a book which you will find on Amazon. You can 
buy the kindle version and download it. JSTOR is where I found the journal 
articles related to the book ‘The population of Ireland 1750-1845’ by KH 
Connell.
Marion

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From: Linda Nimer
Sent: 24 June 2020 19:59
To: CoTyroneIreland. com Mailing List; Marion
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

Thanks for the clarification. I did find JSTOR while looking for the other one, 
but did not see Bob was a Protestant Horse in their Irish section. Any 
suggestions on how to locate it on the JSTOR website?

Linda





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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Gordon Wilkinson via CoTyroneList 

Hi Elwyn,

I wonder if 'your' farmer bought a Fordson tractor, as that was the 
franchise P p/l had, and whether they bought from dad as he sold 
mainly in Down and Armagh? On one occasion I recall standing at the 
bottom of a rather steep field (dressed in shorts like the lad in the 
cover picture of the book) alongside the farmer, as dad demonstrated the 
tractor ploughing up the field and harrowing it (P made ploughs and 
harrows). He often commented that he thought that some farmers just 
wanted their fields ploughed and had no intention of buying a tractor! 
Anyway, dad got to the top of the seep rise and tried to turn, but the 
slope was too great. Then he tried to reverse, when the front of the 
tractor rose up before him (a bit like in the popular Irish Blessing), 
so he called to us and we had to cling onto the front of the machine to 
counterweigh it as he eventually got back down the hill. Dad later 
remarked that the Irish stand their fields on edge so they can plough 
both sites. :) He also confessed that he thought some of the terrain he 
demonstrated on, whilst he could handle the tractor in those conditions, 
was too dangerous for the average farmer to use a tractor and it gave 
him some cause for concern.


Being in Belfast, we had electricity during the war, although the street 
lights were gas. We got a telephone installed around 1945 so that the 
firm could contact him in emergency. We were all admonished to not use 
the phone, it's for business only!!! I still recall the number: 5557.


Fond memories. Thanks for mentioning the McDonald's book. Must write my 
own memoirs sometime, when I get the time.


Gordon

On 24/06/2020 7:26 pm, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList wrote:

Gordon,



I am glad you are enjoying the book. It made me laugh.  I have a neighbour
who was brought up on a farm like that in Co. Down and he says it’s pretty
typical. He particularly recalled the arrival of the first tractor in the
late 1940s which he (as a young man) was wildly enthusiastic about. His
father however was very suspicious and preferred horses. Whenever the
tractor broke down, his father was quick to point out: ‘You don’t have that
problem with horses.” (Though actually you do). The horses were kept on
largely as pets till the end of their days because his father was so fond
of them.



Electricity was another controversial change. His father couldn’t see the
point of it at first. It was just as easy to light a paraffin lamp to milk
the cows, as flick a switch, was his view. However when someone invented
electric milking machines and it halved the time taken to milk the cows, he
suddenly came round to its uses. At first the only electricity on the farm
was in the milking shed. None in the house. No use for it there!





Elwyn




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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Marion via CoTyroneList 
‘Bob was a Protestant Horse’ is a book which you will find on Amazon. You can 
buy the kindle version and download it. JSTOR is where I found the journal 
articles related to the book ‘The population of Ireland 1750-1845’ by KH 
Connell.
Marion

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From: Linda Nimer
Sent: 24 June 2020 19:59
To: CoTyroneIreland. com Mailing List; Marion
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

Thanks for the clarification. I did find JSTOR while looking for the other one, 
but did not see Bob was a Protestant Horse in their Irish section. Any 
suggestions on how to locate it on the JSTOR website?

Linda 


On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 01:03:43 AM PDT, Marion 
 wrote: 


Sorry Linda,
That should have been JSTOR ! Its a website where you can access a variety of 
academic journals. I’ ve only just discovered it and they are allowing free 
accounts during COVID pandemic. Apologies for typing error; it was late when I 
sent the email.
Regards Marion
 
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From: Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList
Sent: 24 June 2020 05:07
To: Marion via CoTyroneList
Cc: Linda Nimer
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs
 
What is YSTOR?
Linda  
 
    On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 03:11:42 PM PDT, Marion via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:  
 
 Elwyn
Thanks again for all your explanations and insight which have helped me 
understand this topic more clearly. The journals I mentioned cover similar 
topics to the book you described and I have been able to access them through 
YSTOR which is free at the moment. I have already downloaded ‘Bob was a 
Protestant horse’ onto my kindle and am looking forward to reading it. I always 
expect an interesting response to my queries from you and am never disappointed.
 
Ron
Thanks to you too for your perspective on illegitimacy and the way people tend 
to be supportive in these circumstances. Its strange that no one in my family 
knew that my grandfather was illegitimate till I started delving into the past!
 
I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion and really 
appreciate the forum the mailing list provides.
Regards Marion
 
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList 
Thanks for the clarification. I did find JSTOR while looking for the other one, 
but did not see Bob was a Protestant Horse in their Irish section. Any 
suggestions on how to locate it on the JSTOR website?
Linda  

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020, 01:03:43 AM PDT, Marion 
 wrote:  
 
 
Sorry Linda,

That should have been JSTOR ! Its a website where you can access a variety of 
academic journals. I’ ve only just discovered it and they are allowing free 
accounts during COVID pandemic. Apologies for typing error; it was late when I 
sent the email.

Regards Marion

  

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From: Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList
Sent: 24 June 2020 05:07
To: Marion via CoTyroneList
Cc: Linda Nimer
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

  

What is YSTOR?

Linda  

  

    On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 03:11:42 PM PDT, Marion via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:  

 

 Elwyn

Thanks again for all your explanations and insight which have helped me 
understand this topic more clearly. The journals I mentioned cover similar 
topics to the book you described and I have been able to access them through 
YSTOR which is free at the moment. I have already downloaded ‘Bob was a 
Protestant horse’ onto my kindle and am looking forward to reading it. I always 
expect an interesting response to my queries from you and am never disappointed.

  

Ron

Thanks to you too for your perspective on illegitimacy and the way people tend 
to be supportive in these circumstances. Its strange that no one in my family 
knew that my grandfather was illegitimate till I started delving into the past!

  

I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion and really 
appreciate the forum the mailing list provides.

Regards Marion

  

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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Beverley Ballantine via CoTyroneList 
In the United States JSTOR can be accessed via a public library membership.

> On Jun 24, 2020, at 4:03 AM, Marion via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sorry Linda,
> That should have been JSTOR ! Its a website where you can access a variety of 
> academic journals. I’ ve only just discovered it and they are allowing free 
> accounts during COVID pandemic. Apologies for typing error; it was late when 
> I sent the email.
> Regards Marion
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> From: Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList
> Sent: 24 June 2020 05:07
> To: Marion via CoTyroneList
> Cc: Linda Nimer
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs
> 
> What is YSTOR?
> Linda  
> 
>On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 03:11:42 PM PDT, Marion via CoTyroneList 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Elwyn
> Thanks again for all your explanations and insight which have helped me 
> understand this topic more clearly. The journals I mentioned cover similar 
> topics to the book you described and I have been able to access them through 
> YSTOR which is free at the moment. I have already downloaded ‘Bob was a 
> Protestant horse’ onto my kindle and am looking forward to reading it. I 
> always expect an interesting response to my queries from you and am never 
> disappointed.
> 
> Ron
> Thanks to you too for your perspective on illegitimacy and the way people 
> tend to be supportive in these circumstances. Its strange that no one in my 
> family knew that my grandfather was illegitimate till I started delving into 
> the past!
> 
> I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion and really 
> appreciate the forum the mailing list provides.
> Regards Marion
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Aspects of Marriage Customs in the North of Ireland & Their Consequences


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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList 
Gordon,



I am glad you are enjoying the book. It made me laugh.  I have a neighbour
who was brought up on a farm like that in Co. Down and he says it’s pretty
typical. He particularly recalled the arrival of the first tractor in the
late 1940s which he (as a young man) was wildly enthusiastic about. His
father however was very suspicious and preferred horses. Whenever the
tractor broke down, his father was quick to point out: ‘You don’t have that
problem with horses.” (Though actually you do). The horses were kept on
largely as pets till the end of their days because his father was so fond
of them.



Electricity was another controversial change. His father couldn’t see the
point of it at first. It was just as easy to light a paraffin lamp to milk
the cows, as flick a switch, was his view. However when someone invented
electric milking machines and it halved the time taken to milk the cows, he
suddenly came round to its uses. At first the only electricity on the farm
was in the milking shed. None in the house. No use for it there!





Elwyn

On Wed, 24 Jun 2020 at 09:04, Marion via CoTyroneList <
cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:

> Sorry Linda,
> That should have been JSTOR ! Its a website where you can access a variety
> of academic journals. I’ ve only just discovered it and they are allowing
> free accounts during COVID pandemic. Apologies for typing error; it was
> late when I sent the email.
> Regards Marion
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
> From: Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList
> Sent: 24 June 2020 05:07
> To: Marion via CoTyroneList
> Cc: Linda Nimer
> Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs
>
> What is YSTOR?
> Linda
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 03:11:42 PM PDT, Marion via CoTyroneList <
> cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com> wrote:
>
>  Elwyn
> Thanks again for all your explanations and insight which have helped me
> understand this topic more clearly. The journals I mentioned cover similar
> topics to the book you described and I have been able to access them
> through YSTOR which is free at the moment. I have already downloaded ‘Bob
> was a Protestant horse’ onto my kindle and am looking forward to reading
> it. I always expect an interesting response to my queries from you and am
> never disappointed.
>
> Ron
> Thanks to you too for your perspective on illegitimacy and the way people
> tend to be supportive in these circumstances. Its strange that no one in my
> family knew that my grandfather was illegitimate till I started delving
> into the past!
>
> I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion and
> really appreciate the forum the mailing list provides.
> Regards Marion
>
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
>
>
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Marriage in Ireland Pre-civil Registration


Ballykelly Presbyterian Church, Tamlaght Finlagan Parish, Co. Londonderry,
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Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

2020-06-24 Thread Marion via CoTyroneList 
Sorry Linda,
That should have been JSTOR ! Its a website where you can access a variety of 
academic journals. I’ ve only just discovered it and they are allowing free 
accounts during COVID pandemic. Apologies for typing error; it was late when I 
sent the email.
Regards Marion

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From: Linda Nimer via CoTyroneList
Sent: 24 June 2020 05:07
To: Marion via CoTyroneList
Cc: Linda Nimer
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Marriage Customs

What is YSTOR?
Linda  

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 03:11:42 PM PDT, Marion via CoTyroneList 
 wrote:  
 
 Elwyn
Thanks again for all your explanations and insight which have helped me 
understand this topic more clearly. The journals I mentioned cover similar 
topics to the book you described and I have been able to access them through 
YSTOR which is free at the moment. I have already downloaded ‘Bob was a 
Protestant horse’ onto my kindle and am looking forward to reading it. I always 
expect an interesting response to my queries from you and am never disappointed.

Ron
Thanks to you too for your perspective on illegitimacy and the way people tend 
to be supportive in these circumstances. Its strange that no one in my family 
knew that my grandfather was illegitimate till I started delving into the past!

I am grateful to everyone who has contributed to this discussion and really 
appreciate the forum the mailing list provides.
Regards Marion

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