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Thanks for this fascinating information. My wife's ancestor Moses Barnett left Clogher for Ontario, Canada, in 1823 and we've always wondered why. This reference to a post-war local depression after 1815 could be a clue. In any case, it's interesting to read details of the region where Moses Barnett grew up. -Bob Blakey Calgary, Alberta, Canada From: Bobbie Reihsen via CoTyroneList Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2018 7:45 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: Bobbie Reihsen Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century So thankful for your references to Enniskillen in Co. Tyrone. Took me lots of research to prove it on the map of Co.Tyrone, near village of Kingsmill.My William Thompson lived and farmed there there and farmed in the 1700s. Son, John William Thompson married "E" in Co. Fermanagh near Tempo. They married about 1794 and had son, William b. 1796, Matthew b 1798, Margaret b. 1800 and John b. 1803-4. When baby John was 2 years old the family of 6 left for America. Very interesting to hear about the life in Ireland during these times. thank you. Bobbie Reihsen From: CoTyroneList on behalf of Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:12 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: m00...@mymts.net Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century Awesome, thank you so much Elwyn. For those of us in other parts of the world who are challenged in our quests for information about our family members in Ireland, you provide a window into their times. More,please! Gail IRWIN Mooney / xo From: "elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList" To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" Cc: "elwyn soutter" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:29:46 AM Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century >From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in >day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore >interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good >description of life then. PRONI Reference : T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley'
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So thankful for your references to Enniskillen in Co. Tyrone. Took me lots of research to prove it on the map of Co.Tyrone, near village of Kingsmill.My William Thompson lived and farmed there there and farmed in the 1700s. Son, John William Thompson married "E" in Co. Fermanagh near Tempo. They married about 1794 and had son, William b. 1796, Matthew b 1798, Margaret b. 1800 and John b. 1803-4. When baby John was 2 years old the family of 6 left for America. Very interesting to hear about the life in Ireland during these times. thank you. Bobbie Reihsen From: CoTyroneList on behalf of Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 4:12 PM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: m00...@mymts.net Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century Awesome, thank you so much Elwyn. For those of us in other parts of the world who are challenged in our quests for information about our family members in Ireland, you provide a window into their times. More,please! Gail IRWIN Mooney / xo From: "elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList" To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" Cc: "elwyn soutter" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:29:46 AM Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century >From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in >day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore >interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good >description of life then. PRONI Reference : T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin
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Elwyn, thank you so much for this fascinating account. It makes the ancestors come alive, reading of their day-to-day lives. Dorothy in New Zealand Sent from my iPad > On 20/10/2018, at 4:29 AM, elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList > wrote: > > From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in > day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might > therefore interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it > gave a good description of life then. > > > > PRONI Reference : > > T2279/2 > > > > MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, > FAMINE > > > > > > Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my > father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. > > > > 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the > soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss > McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my > grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother > John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane > McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co > Monaghan.' > > > > 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since > pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. > Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary > married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in > childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane > married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John > Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' > > > > 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to > America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to > Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions > for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward > voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these > occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of > starvation.' > > > > 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a > little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of > the risk of infection then.' > > > > 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now > planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the > village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] > C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' > > > > 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry > Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by > two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards > I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on > a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I > remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the > Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for > to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 > November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother > in Donaghmore.' > > > > 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving > out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At > that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not > Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used > to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode > on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to > Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast > had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and > took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the > farmers brought the webs, woven by their families and servants. The > "standings" were benches with boards in front of them, on which the webs were > thrown for examination. When the price was arranged the buyer put his mark on > it and the seller took it to Mr Robert Tener in Perry Street who measured it. > He got a few pence for each web measured, in consideration for which he > supplied the buyers with dinner.' > > > > 'Travellers then wishing to go to Belfast, used to leave Dungannon at 4 am on > a long car which took them by Moy and Loughgall to Portadown. Here they > joined John Byer's coach, running between Armagh and Belfast, reaching the > latter place about 1 pm.' > > > > 'During the war with
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Hello Elwyn Thanks for sharing such a fascinating document with lots of insights into life at that time. Regards Marion Shepharrd Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList Sent: 19 October 2018 16:31 To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Cc: elwyn soutter Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century >From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in >day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore >interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good >description of life then. PRONI Reference : T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the farmers brought the webs, woven by their families and servants. The "standings" were benches with boards in front of them, on which the webs were thrown for examination. When the price was arranged the buyer put his mark on it and the seller took it to Mr Robert Tener in Perry Street who measured it. He got a few pence for each web measured, in consideration for which he supplied the buyers with dinner.' 'Travellers then wishing to go to Belfast, used to leave Dungannon at 4 am on a long car which took them by Moy and Loughgall to Portadown. Here they joined John Byer's coach, running between Armagh and Belfast, reaching the latter place about 1 pm.' 'During the war with Napoleon prices for agricultural produce were high, but the peace of 1815 was followed by a time of
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That was a great read - thanks so much for posting it. If anyone else on the list has more stories like this, please share! Written pictures of our ancestors' lives is much appreciated for those of us who have nothing more than names, dates, and maybe a grainy photo or two. Bonus: It also helps put sober perspective into what we consider "problems" in our own lives. Jacquelyn On Friday, October 19, 2018 12:18 PM, Liz Fitzgerald via CoTyroneList wrote: This was wonderful to read. Thank you. So enjoyable. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList wrote: Awesome, thank you so much Elwyn. For those of us in other parts of the world who are challenged in our quests for information about our family members in Ireland, you provide a window into their times. More,please!Gail IRWIN Mooney / xo From: "elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList" To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" Cc: "elwyn soutter" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:29:46 AM Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century >From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in >day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore >interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good >description of life then. | PRONI Reference : | T2279/2 | MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America onSt. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, incompany of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the farmers brought the webs, woven by their f
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This was wonderful to read. Thank you. So enjoyable. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Gail Mooney via CoTyroneList mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> wrote: Awesome, thank you so much Elwyn. For those of us in other parts of the world who are challenged in our quests for information about our family members in Ireland, you provide a window into their times. More,please! Gail IRWIN Mooney / xo From: "elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList" mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> To: "CoTyroneIreland.com<http://CoTyroneIreland.com> Mailing List" mailto:cotyronelist@cotyroneireland.com>> Cc: "elwyn soutter" mailto:elwynsout...@googlemail.com>> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:29:46 AM Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good description of life then. PRONI Reference : T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the farmers brought the webs, woven by their families and servants. The "standings" were benches with boards in front of them, on which the webs were thrown for examination. When the price was arranged the buyer put his mark on it and the seller took it to Mr Robert Tener in Perry Str
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Awesome, thank you so much Elwyn. For those of us in other parts of the world who are challenged in our quests for information about our family members in Ireland, you provide a window into their times. More,please! Gail IRWIN Mooney / xo - Original Message - From: "elwyn soutter via CoTyroneList" To: "CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List" Cc: "elwyn soutter" Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 10:29:46 AM Subject: [CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century >From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in >day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore >interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good >description of life then. PRONI Reference : T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St . Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the farmers brought the webs, woven by their families and servants. The "standings" were benches with boards in front of them, on which the webs were thrown for examination. When the price was arranged the buyer put his mark on it and the seller took it to Mr Robert Tener in Perry Street who measured it. He got a few pence for each web measured, in consideration for which he supplied the buyers with dinner.' 'Travellers then wishing to go to Belfast, used to leave Dungannon at 4 am on a long car which took them by Moy and Loughgall to Portadown. Here they joined John Byer's coach,
[CoTyroneMailingList] Life in Tyrone in the 19th century
>From a recent post about farming in Tyrone, I sense there is an interest in day to day life in Tyrone in the 1800s. The following document might therefore interest members of this forum. I found it in PRONI and thought it gave a good description of life then. *PRONI Reference : * T2279/2 MEMORIES OF DUNGANNON, FLAX, THE BIG WIND, TRAVEL, EMIGRATION, POTATO BLIGHT, FAMINE Notes and reminiscences dictated to me during the winter of 1904-5 by my father James Brown Donaghmore, [Co. Tyrone] [signed] Nora Brown. 'I was born on 25 July 1823 in the old house in Donaghmore, now a part of the soap works. My father was David Brown, son of John Brown who married Miss McClelland and lived in Mullaghmore. Miss McClelland's brother married my grandfather's sister and also lived in Mullaghmore. My father had one brother John who lived in Irish Street and carried on a bakery. He married Miss Jane McDowell. My mother was Betty, daughter of Henry King of Middletown Co Monaghan.' 'When first married, my parents lived in a small house in Mullaghmore, since pulled down, and afterwards in a house in Donaghmore opposite the chapel. Then they moved to the house where I was born. They had ten children. Mary married Richard Tener; Henry married Jane Carr; Ann and Thomas who died in childhood. Margaret married Henry Oliver; Eliza married Robert Smith; Jane married Thomas Lilburn; Amelia married Joseph Acheson; Isabella married John Beatty and myself who married Jane Ellen Nicholson.' 'The first thing I can remember is a servant of ours Mary Mullen going to America on St. Patrick's Day 1828. She and the rest of her party drove to Belfast in a cart to sail thence to America. They took with them provisions for the journey, chiefly oat cakes, as then was the custom. The outward voyage averaged 30 days, but occasionally was 6 or 7 weeks and on these occasions provisions ran short and the poor people were in danger of starvation.' 'Another early recollection is being taken into a darkened bedroom to see a little play fellow, who was ill of smallpox, there being little knowledge of the risk of infection then.' 'My first teacher was Mr Richard Robinson whose school was in the space now planted with trees behind the cross. It was then the only school in the village. Later I had lessons at home from Mr Stuart who taught the R[oman] C[atholic] school in Dungannon.' 'After leaving the village school I was sent to my sister Mary Tener in Perry Street where her husband had a grocer's shop and I attended a school kept by two teachers from the South of Ireland, Messrs Murphy and Riordan. Afterwards I lived with my sister Margaret in Church Street where her husband carried on a saddlery trade and I went to Mr Burch's school on the Castle Hill. I remained here until I was nearly 13 when in the summer of 1836 I went to the Rev. John Bleckley's school in Monaghan. Here I stayed until I was sent for to come to the death bed of my father on 17 November 1837. He died on 22 November and I did not return to school, but went to business with my brother in Donaghmore.' 'Previous to the year 1816 my father was engaged in the linen trade giving out home spun yarn and getting it woven in hand looms in the cottages. At that time a good deal of the linen trade was transacted in Dublin, not Belfast, probably in consequence of better banking facilities. My father used to go to Dublin to sell his linen, in company of other merchants. They rode on horse back, in parties, for protection from highwaymen, the journey to Dublin occupying three days. In later years when the linen trade in Belfast had increased, buyers for the bleachers came to Dungannon every Thursday and took their places on the "standings" on the east side of the square where the farmers brought the webs, woven by their families and servants. The "standings" were benches with boards in front of them, on which the webs were thrown for examination. When the price was arranged the buyer put his mark on it and the seller took it to Mr Robert Tener in Perry Street who measured it. He got a few pence for each web measured, in consideration for which he supplied the buyers with dinner.' 'Travellers then wishing to go to Belfast, used to leave Dungannon at 4 am on a long car which took them by Moy and Loughgall to Portadown. Here they joined John Byer's coach, running between Armagh and Belfast, reaching the latter place about 1 pm.' 'During the war with Napoleon prices for agricultural produce were high, but the peace of 1815 was followed by a time of great depression, partly caused by two bad seasons, a very wet summer and a very dry one. During the latter the corn was so short it could not be reaped in the usual way but had to be pulled. The depression in the linen trade caused my father to open a bakery in Donaghmore and I remember his telling me that the first flour he used was American and cost 4 guineas[1] <#_ftn1> a barrel.' 'About the year 1820 partly from the
