Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

2018-04-30 Thread Fiona Harris
Haha!  Thanks Len.  I’ll now stop browsing through the Catholic film I found on 
Familysearch!  I was only up to page 14 of 280 so you have saved me a heap of 
work!
Thank you so much – its unbelievable isn’t it, that the error persisted for so 
long.  I am amazed!
How did you find the death?
I don’t suppose Whan could be an abbreviation for Woolaghan, W’han???
Best wishes
Fiona

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Subject: RE: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

Hello all,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news here folks, but a little research reveals 
that the Samuel Woolaghan recorded at Killywoolaghan, Ardboe parish, Co. Tyrone 
in Griffiths Valuation was actually WHAN. Yes, these things have  happened 
elsewhere i.e. my research into Kilpatricks in Leckpatrick parish in north 
Tyrone where they have been recorded variously since the 1660s as Leckpatrick, 
McIlpatrick and Kirkpatrick.

The Whans of Killywoolaghan were Catholics whereas all other Whan marriage 
registrations in Cookstown registration district were Presbyterian except for 
one Methodist marriage.

The Samuel Woolaghan recorded c1860 in Griffiths Valuation died December 1896 
aged 101 years, the informant was his son, James Whan. It seems that the error 
in Griffiths was self perpetuating in each of the revaluation books. Such are 
the challenges of Irish genealogical research...

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia




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Fiona Harris <fionaehar...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:36:53 PM
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

Thank you so much for this Boyd.  It is really appreciated.

No I am not specifically looking for a Samuel, but we have been looking around 
the Castlederg area since I started researching 18 years ago – so I thought I 
should perhaps have a look at Killywoolaghan, and if there is a Woolaghan from 
Killywoolaghan so much the better!

Thank you so much for the reference numbers for the parish records, and also 
for having a look at the other resources for me.  In one way its great having 
such an unusual name to research, but in another its very frustrating!

I live in Western Australia – and I had my trip to Castlederg last year with my 
wonderful cousins who I found through DNA testing.  I’ll have to see if they 
are able to visit PRONI for us.

Best wishes
Fiona

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Gray <boydgra...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:59:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

Hi Fiona,

Reps usually does mean the person died and the property awaiting settlement.  I 
checked for a will but there was none.

No children born to Samuel Woolaghan at RootsIreland anywhere in Ireland.  RI 
only has two Woolaghan births in Tyrone, both early 19th century and at Sion 
Mills.

No marriages to anyone in Ireland whose father was a Samuel Woolaghan.  No 
Woolaghan or Watters born or married with Killywoolaghan as an address.

No deaths for Samuel Woolaghan at any of RI, IrishGenealogy or GRONI.

Samuel is the only Woolaghan in the Parish of Ardboe in the GV.  He is the onlt 
Woolaghan in Ardboe.  There are only ten Woolaghan entries (several being the 
same person, I suspect), and two Woollaghan entries, in the whole of Tyrone, 
all the others being from Urney Parish.

There is only one Woolaghan in Ireland in the Tithe Applotment Books at the 
National Archives website and he is in Co Wicklow.  However, the more spelling 
friendly FamilySearch website has 14, most spelled Woolahan, but none in Co 
Tyrone.

These are the church records available for the Parish of Arboe and may all be 
viewed at PRONI, a much easier propect than bearding the clergymen of each 
church for a quick peek:

ARBOE, COS LONDONDERRY AND TYRONE
C.I. Arboe (Armagh diocese)
Baptisms, 1775-1813 and 1824-71; marriages, 1773-
1812 and 1824-45; burials, 1776-1813, 1827-1900 and
1905-06; vestry minutes, 1773-1833; list of the poor,
1789 and 1794; census, 1775; confirmation lists, 1775,
1828, 1833, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1870 and 1873; indexes
to baptisms, 1775-1871, and marriages, 1773-1845.
Baptisms, 1871-; marriages, 1845-; burials, 1907-;
vestry minutes, 1834-; tithe applotment, 1826; register
of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 1845-62 and
1869-.
MIC583/1

Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

2018-04-30 Thread Len Swindley
Hello all,

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news here folks, but a little research reveals 
that the Samuel Woolaghan recorded at Killywoolaghan, Ardboe parish, Co. Tyrone 
in Griffiths Valuation was actually WHAN. Yes, these things have  happened 
elsewhere i.e. my research into Kilpatricks in Leckpatrick parish in north 
Tyrone where they have been recorded variously since the 1660s as Leckpatrick, 
McIlpatrick and Kirkpatrick.

The Whans of Killywoolaghan were Catholics whereas all other Whan marriage 
registrations in Cookstown registration district were Presbyterian except for 
one Methodist marriage.

The Samuel Woolaghan recorded c1860 in Griffiths Valuation died December 1896 
aged 101 years, the informant was his son, James Whan. It seems that the error 
in Griffiths was self perpetuating in each of the revaluation books. Such are 
the challenges of Irish genealogical research...

Regards,
Len Swindley, Melbourne, Australia




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Fiona Harris <fionaehar...@hotmail.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 6:36:53 PM
To: boydgra...@gmail.com; CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

Thank you so much for this Boyd.  It is really appreciated.

No I am not specifically looking for a Samuel, but we have been looking around 
the Castlederg area since I started researching 18 years ago – so I thought I 
should perhaps have a look at Killywoolaghan, and if there is a Woolaghan from 
Killywoolaghan so much the better!

Thank you so much for the reference numbers for the parish records, and also 
for having a look at the other resources for me.  In one way its great having 
such an unusual name to research, but in another its very frustrating!

I live in Western Australia – and I had my trip to Castlederg last year with my 
wonderful cousins who I found through DNA testing.  I’ll have to see if they 
are able to visit PRONI for us.

Best wishes
Fiona

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From: CoTyroneList <cotyronelist-boun...@cotyroneireland.com> on behalf of Boyd 
Gray <boydgra...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2018 8:59:48 PM
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] KILLYWOOLAGHAN

Hi Fiona,

Reps usually does mean the person died and the property awaiting settlement.  I 
checked for a will but there was none.

No children born to Samuel Woolaghan at RootsIreland anywhere in Ireland.  RI 
only has two Woolaghan births in Tyrone, both early 19th century and at Sion 
Mills.

No marriages to anyone in Ireland whose father was a Samuel Woolaghan.  No 
Woolaghan or Watters born or married with Killywoolaghan as an address.

No deaths for Samuel Woolaghan at any of RI, IrishGenealogy or GRONI.

Samuel is the only Woolaghan in the Parish of Ardboe in the GV.  He is the onlt 
Woolaghan in Ardboe.  There are only ten Woolaghan entries (several being the 
same person, I suspect), and two Woollaghan entries, in the whole of Tyrone, 
all the others being from Urney Parish.

There is only one Woolaghan in Ireland in the Tithe Applotment Books at the 
National Archives website and he is in Co Wicklow.  However, the more spelling 
friendly FamilySearch website has 14, most spelled Woolahan, but none in Co 
Tyrone.

These are the church records available for the Parish of Arboe and may all be 
viewed at PRONI, a much easier propect than bearding the clergymen of each 
church for a quick peek:

ARBOE, COS LONDONDERRY AND TYRONE
C.I. Arboe (Armagh diocese)
Baptisms, 1775-1813 and 1824-71; marriages, 1773-
1812 and 1824-45; burials, 1776-1813, 1827-1900 and
1905-06; vestry minutes, 1773-1833; list of the poor,
1789 and 1794; census, 1775; confirmation lists, 1775,
1828, 1833, 1837, 1840, 1843, 1870 and 1873; indexes
to baptisms, 1775-1871, and marriages, 1773-1845.
Baptisms, 1871-; marriages, 1845-; burials, 1907-;
vestry minutes, 1834-; tithe applotment, 1826; register
of vestrymen, 1870-; preachers’ books, 1845-62 and
1869-.
MIC583/10; D1278
In local custody
P. Ballygoney
Baptisms, 1848-1937; marriages, 1845-1936;
committee minutes, 1891-1997.
Session minutes, 1850-1915; Committee minutes,
1848-69.
MIC1P/448
In Presbyterian Historical
Society
R.C. Arboe [or Ardboe] (Archdiocese of Armagh)
Baptisms, 1827-80; marriages, 1827-81. MIC1D/34

Are you actually looking for a Samuel in particular, Fiona?  Because your best 
bet is really Castlederg if it is just the surname you are chasing.  There is 
virtually nothing on poor old Samuel of Killywoolaghan!  (And I suspect a 
Woolaghan of Killywoolaghan is probably a spurious name anyway!)

Sorry I can be of no more help to you.

Regards,

Boyd



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