Re: [courier-users] [offlist response to courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?

2009-10-02 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hi Alexander,
please try to be somewhat smarter when writing to the list:

* start new threads and/or edit the subject as appropriate,
* when responding avoid top-posting, see 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Choosing_the_proper_posting_style
* give full details of any test you make, see also 
http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise

> I am currently testing local mail, and I sent a message to myself. I got 
> the error message below.

- where did you send it from?
- where did you send it to?
- what software issued that error message?

> *The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was 
> rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 
> 'alexan...@socotherm-nigeria.com'. Subject 'Re: Testing', Account: 
> 'Imap', Server: '192.168.0.3', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 
> User  unknown', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, 
> Error Number: 0x800CCC79*

NB: socotherm-nigeria.com's IP address apparently is serverplan's
venus.dnshigh.com 93.95.217.11 running an exim mail server



























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Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?

2009-10-02 Thread Alexander Hotmail
Hi,

I am currently testing local mail, and I sent a message to myself. I got the 
error message below.

 

The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the 
server. The rejected e-mail address was 'alexan...@socotherm-nigeria.com'. 
Subject 'Re: Testing', Account: 'Imap', Server: '192.168.0.3', Protocol: SMTP, 
Server Response: '550 User  unknown', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, 
Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79

 

 

Alexander

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Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?

2009-10-01 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Hanno Böck writes:


Hi,

While investigating a kmail problem, I noticed that our courier server sends 
the error code

431 Too many recipients.
if there are > maxrcpts receipients in a mail.

Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in 
courier:

courier/submit.C-   std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard
courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients."
courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.")
courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush;

Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits 
for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What should 
that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts?


No. This is an option to report overquota recipients as either a soft or a 
hard rejection. See "maxrcpts" setting in the courier man page.


A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later 
again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. 
If I'm wrong, please explain me why.


This error is sent in response to a RCPT TO command. The error code applies 
to the recipient specified by the RCPT TO command, and not to the whole 
message as a whole. When a message has multiple recipients, if at least one 
recipient is accepted by the receiving mail server, the sending mail server 
may proceed with the message delivery, which takes effect only for those 
individual recipients whose RCPT TO command succeeded. For all other 
recipients of the same message, that were rejected, their status is defined 
by each recipient's corresponding error code.





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Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?

2009-10-01 Thread Alessandro Vesely
Hanno Böck wrote:
> Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in 
> courier:
> courier/submit.C-   std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard
> courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients."
> courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.")
> courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush;
> 
> Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits 
> for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What 
> should 
> that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts?
> 
> A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later 
> again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. 
> If I'm wrong, please explain me why.

I think a 4xx temporary failure is more polite: the sending relay will 
keep the relevant recipients for a future attempt, and may eventually 
succeed to send the message to all of them.

By contrast, a 5xx failure is likely to be interpreted as non-existing 
or undeliverable address, and the message will be bounced back to the 
sender for the relevant addresses. In this case, senders have to do by 
hand the operations that their relay can do automatically.































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[courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?

2009-10-01 Thread Hanno Böck
Hi,

While investigating a kmail problem, I noticed that our courier server sends 
the error code
431 Too many recipients.
if there are > maxrcpts receipients in a mail.

Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in 
courier:
courier/submit.C-   std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard
courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients."
courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.")
courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush;

Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits 
for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What should 
that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts?

A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later 
again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. 
If I'm wrong, please explain me why.

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