Re: [courier-users] [offlist response to courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?
Hi Alexander, please try to be somewhat smarter when writing to the list: * start new threads and/or edit the subject as appropriate, * when responding avoid top-posting, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Choosing_the_proper_posting_style * give full details of any test you make, see also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#beprecise > I am currently testing local mail, and I sent a message to myself. I got > the error message below. - where did you send it from? - where did you send it to? - what software issued that error message? > *The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was > rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was > 'alexan...@socotherm-nigeria.com'. Subject 'Re: Testing', Account: > 'Imap', Server: '192.168.0.3', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 > User unknown', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, > Error Number: 0x800CCC79* NB: socotherm-nigeria.com's IP address apparently is serverplan's venus.dnshigh.com 93.95.217.11 running an exim mail server -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?
Hi, I am currently testing local mail, and I sent a message to myself. I got the error message below. The message could not be sent because one of the recipients was rejected by the server. The rejected e-mail address was 'alexan...@socotherm-nigeria.com'. Subject 'Re: Testing', Account: 'Imap', Server: '192.168.0.3', Protocol: SMTP, Server Response: '550 User unknown', Port: 25, Secure(SSL): No, Server Error: 550, Error Number: 0x800CCC79 Alexander -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?
Hanno Böck writes: Hi, While investigating a kmail problem, I noticed that our courier server sends the error code 431 Too many recipients. if there are > maxrcpts receipients in a mail. Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in courier: courier/submit.C- std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients." courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.") courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush; Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What should that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts? No. This is an option to report overquota recipients as either a soft or a hard rejection. See "maxrcpts" setting in the courier man page. A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. If I'm wrong, please explain me why. This error is sent in response to a RCPT TO command. The error code applies to the recipient specified by the RCPT TO command, and not to the whole message as a whole. When a message has multiple recipients, if at least one recipient is accepted by the receiving mail server, the sending mail server may proceed with the message delivery, which takes effect only for those individual recipients whose RCPT TO command succeeded. For all other recipients of the same message, that were rejected, their status is defined by each recipient's corresponding error code. pgpnkaSPqZcQi.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
Re: [courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?
Hanno Böck wrote: > Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in > courier: > courier/submit.C- std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard > courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients." > courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.") > courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush; > > Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits > for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What > should > that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts? > > A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later > again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. > If I'm wrong, please explain me why. I think a 4xx temporary failure is more polite: the sending relay will keep the relevant recipients for a future attempt, and may eventually succeed to send the message to all of them. By contrast, a 5xx failure is likely to be interpreted as non-existing or undeliverable address, and the message will be bounced back to the sender for the relevant addresses. In this case, senders have to do by hand the operations that their relay can do automatically. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf ___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users
[courier-users] maxrcpts soft and hard?
Hi, While investigating a kmail problem, I noticed that our courier server sends the error code 431 Too many recipients. if there are > maxrcpts receipients in a mail. Now, 4xx error codes are for temporary errors. I found this piece of code in courier: courier/submit.C- std::cout << (max_bofh_ishard courier/submit.C:? "531 Too many recipients." courier/submit.C:: "431 Too many recipients.") courier/submit.C-<< std::endl << std::flush; Now, I don't understand that. It seems one can set "hard" and "soft" limits for maxrcpts (although I don't find anything documented about it). What should that mean? What's a soft limit for maxrcpts? A 4xx error should mean for the user that just sending the same mail later again will work (RFC 2821), so from what I can see, it should always be 531. If I'm wrong, please explain me why. -- Hanno Böck Blog: http://www.hboeck.de/ GPG: 3DBD3B20 Jabber/Mail:ha...@hboeck.de http://schokokeks.org - professional webhosting signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- Come build with us! The BlackBerry® Developer Conference in SF, CA is the only developer event you need to attend this year. Jumpstart your developing skills, take BlackBerry mobile applications to market and stay ahead of the curve. Join us from November 9-12, 2009. Register now! http://p.sf.net/sfu/devconf___ courier-users mailing list courier-users@lists.sourceforge.net Unsubscribe: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/courier-users