Re: [Coworking] Re: Name protection

2017-05-24 Thread Piotr Grabowski
Not registering trademark for our coworking space in Poland in the
beginning of 2013 led us to miserable treadmark confilcts with 2
institutions already. It delayed our trademark registeration for 4 years
already, we went through a long legal way proving that we were the first to
using the name. Money spent, a lt of time wasted and those 4 years
later we still have no final protection granted. Now it is a matter of few
months, but still, if we acted 4 years ago, we didn't wasted so much time
and money.

So the advice from the deepest bottom of my heart: f*** this $275, I'm
telling you it's nothing if you think serious about what you are doing.

On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Alex Hillman 
wrote:

> Hugs, y'all.
>
> Kevin - Glad this sunk in as intended. I know from where I speak, because
> I know how hard it is to live by consistently.
>
> But trust me...it's worth it. :)
>
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> On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski  > wrote:
>
>> @alexhillman You are a national treasure.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:02:54 AM UTC-6, Kevin Haggerty wrote:
>>>
>>> So, for those of you who have been following, some of this is repeat
>>> info, but the short summary is this:
>>>
>>> We were working with landlords who pretended to believe in our idea to
>>> bring coworking to our community, jacked up the rent to an unbelievable
>>> amount they knew we couldn't pay so we have to walk away, and are now
>>> trying to do the space without us -- which we now suspect was they plan all
>>> along.
>>>
>>> Additionally, I've gotten wind that they even intend to try and use the
>>> name we'd been using for the movement, Cowork Gloucester VA.
>>>
>>> I own and have always owned the domain (www.coworkGloucesterVA.com), as
>>> well as the Facebook, Instagram and Twitter accounts with the same namesake.
>>>
>>> Yesterday, we created our LLC with the same name, filed our trade name
>>> paperwork with the County, got our business license with that name, and, I
>>> think, checked all of those boxes.
>>>
>>> Additionally, I also filed for the trademark online, and here's where my
>>> question comes in:
>>>
>>> In order to finalize the trademark, I need to pay another $275 for the
>>> filing fee. I'd rather not so that if I don't have to. Do you think the
>>> trademark is overkill, or is it necessary? With all the other things I've
>>> squared away, even without the trademark, wouldn't infringement be easy to
>>> prove if they try and use our name?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [Coworking] Re: Name protection

2017-05-12 Thread Alex Hillman
Hugs, y'all.

Kevin - Glad this sunk in as intended. I know from where I speak, because I
know how hard it is to live by consistently.

But trust me...it's worth it. :)


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On Fri, May 12, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Angel Kwiatkowski 
wrote:

> @alexhillman You are a national treasure.
>
>
> On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:02:54 AM UTC-6, Kevin Haggerty wrote:
>>
>> So, for those of you who have been following, some of this is repeat
>> info, but the short summary is this:
>>
>> We were working with landlords who pretended to believe in our idea to
>> bring coworking to our community, jacked up the rent to an unbelievable
>> amount they knew we couldn't pay so we have to walk away, and are now
>> trying to do the space without us -- which we now suspect was they plan all
>> along.
>>
>> Additionally, I've gotten wind that they even intend to try and use the
>> name we'd been using for the movement, Cowork Gloucester VA.
>>
>> I own and have always owned the domain (www.coworkGloucesterVA.com), as
>> well as the Facebook, Instagram and Twitter accounts with the same namesake.
>>
>> Yesterday, we created our LLC with the same name, filed our trade name
>> paperwork with the County, got our business license with that name, and, I
>> think, checked all of those boxes.
>>
>> Additionally, I also filed for the trademark online, and here's where my
>> question comes in:
>>
>> In order to finalize the trademark, I need to pay another $275 for the
>> filing fee. I'd rather not so that if I don't have to. Do you think the
>> trademark is overkill, or is it necessary? With all the other things I've
>> squared away, even without the trademark, wouldn't infringement be easy to
>> prove if they try and use our name?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[Coworking] Re: Name protection

2017-05-12 Thread Angel Kwiatkowski
@alexhillman You are a national treasure.

On Thursday, May 11, 2017 at 7:02:54 AM UTC-6, Kevin Haggerty wrote:
>
> So, for those of you who have been following, some of this is repeat info, 
> but the short summary is this:
>
> We were working with landlords who pretended to believe in our idea to 
> bring coworking to our community, jacked up the rent to an unbelievable 
> amount they knew we couldn't pay so we have to walk away, and are now 
> trying to do the space without us -- which we now suspect was they plan all 
> along.
>
> Additionally, I've gotten wind that they even intend to try and use the 
> name we'd been using for the movement, Cowork Gloucester VA.
>
> I own and have always owned the domain (www.coworkGloucesterVA.com), as 
> well as the Facebook, Instagram and Twitter accounts with the same namesake.
>
> Yesterday, we created our LLC with the same name, filed our trade name 
> paperwork with the County, got our business license with that name, and, I 
> think, checked all of those boxes.
>
> Additionally, I also filed for the trademark online, and here's where my 
> question comes in:
>
> In order to finalize the trademark, I need to pay another $275 for the 
> filing fee. I'd rather not so that if I don't have to. Do you think the 
> trademark is overkill, or is it necessary? With all the other things I've 
> squared away, even without the trademark, wouldn't infringement be easy to 
> prove if they try and use our name?
>
> Thanks!
>
>

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