Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-05 Thread Andy Lester
Here are test reports reporting on failures for these things that we care about you caring about. Again, this is CPANTS, not CPAN Testers. Getting failure reports for a module not running on Perl 5.005 is a test about something I don't care about. I don't give Shit One if my code runs on

Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-04 Thread David Cantrell
On Wed, Sep 03, 2008 at 05:09:56PM -0400, David Golden wrote: But I've never heard a single complaint about a bogus PASS report I suspect a lot of that is because authors look at the subject line and think oh good, my code works on Irix, aren't I clever! and don't actually read it. I know that

Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-04 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:09 PM, chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fail to understand the mechanism by which CPAN Testers has seemingly removed the ability of testers to report bugs to the correct places. For example, I think it's a mistake to set this up as just an author-vs-tester zero-sum

Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-04 Thread Steffen Schwigon
chromatic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I volunteer as a programmer, but your goals don't automatically become my goals because you want them to become my goals. They only become my goals if we reach some sort of contractual arrangement with mutual consideration, and then only for the scope of

Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-04 Thread Andrew Moore
Hi Andy - On Thu, Sep 4, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why should I release my software on CPAN if part of the price of entry is being spammed and told what I should be doing? Although the remark about CPAN authors' jobs was worded less than optimally, part of the

Re: The relation between CPAN Testers and quality (or why CPAN Testers sucks if you don't need it)

2008-09-04 Thread Bram
Citeren Andy Lester [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sep 4, 2008, at 1:33 PM, Greg Sabino Mullane wrote: It's not an entitlement, it's a shared goal of making Perl better. If a maintainer is going to ignore test reports, perhaps its time to add a co-maintainer. Yes, something that indicates the age