Re: CMSP 08. Extensibly Group Prereqs

2009-11-02 Thread Adam Kennedy
A quick comment on this one, before work begins on implementing it. This proposal involves the creation of 8+ new dependency types, none of which have been discussed in detail as far as I can tell. Pending rigourous analysis of the implications of this proposal, I think it's fluff. It sounds

Re: CMSP 13. Add a post_depends set

2009-11-02 Thread Adam Kennedy
Opposed until someone can demonstrate working dependency algorithms that take this into account. -1 Adam K

Re: CMSP 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable

2009-11-02 Thread Adam Kennedy
I concur, this is better addressed in a packfile 2.0 process at a later date. Adam K On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:48 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable Proposal: Using

Re: CMSP 34. Formally reserve keys for private 'in-house' use

2009-11-02 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'd prefer we avoid pointless flexibility. Recommend we pick one, and since underscore requires less quoting and can be used as part of a method name, recommend we go with that. Adam K On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:07 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:08 AM, David

Re: CPAN Meta Spec Proposal discussion period has ended -- summary of results

2009-11-02 Thread Adam Kennedy
Which version of version.pm, it moves. What happens if it changes slightly in the future. Adam K On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:35 PM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * Adam Kennedy a...@ali.as [2009-11

Re: Perl 6 versus the CPAN

2010-01-04 Thread Adam Kennedy
It's been something of a long-standing (second-order) problem that packages are just tarballs (or bzipball, or zips, etc). The lack of a standard file extension means that we can't sanely implement features like double-click to install on operating systems and browsers with file extension

Re: Perl 6 versus the CPAN

2010-01-04 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'd rather like to avoid adding additional complexity to the current index files. Instead, what about switching to a native SQLite index for the new system. This is working quite nicely in the JSAN now, and it greatly simplifies things because you can download the index much more simply. 1.

Re: CPAN vs Perl 6

2010-01-05 Thread Adam Kennedy
... or, like JSAN does, all of the above. We make multiple different formats available, as many as people ask for pretty much. As long as they stay in sync, there's no real problems that happen from encoding the index in N number of ways. Adam K On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen

Re: CPAN and XDG directories

2010-02-18 Thread Adam Kennedy
(b) sounds like an interesting idea. Adam K On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 2:03 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote: I of course ran `perl Makefile.PL ; make ; make testdistro ; make test` on the source directory before

Re: Trimming the CPAN - Automatic Purging

2010-03-25 Thread Adam Kennedy
What he said. Most people don't mirror CPAN. They mirror many things. This is the same reason we've struggled with statistics. How do you ask someone mirroring three dozen different things to put in a special log-munging tool just for us. Adam K On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Ask Bjørn

Re: Distributing the CPAN

2010-04-01 Thread Adam Kennedy
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:11 AM, Michael G Schwern schw...@pobox.com wrote: * The need for widespread mirroring is less significant than it was in years past. (Also using git as the inter-mirror transport of source files means there'll be much less traffic between mirrors. Effectively only the

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
This has already existed for about a year or more. See pip's .p5i file (which I think cpanminus also supports). Adam K On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:56 AM, Curtis Jewell lists.perl.cpan-work...@csjewell.fastmail.us wrote: Why don't we make the .cpan/.c6pan file (.c6pan) a JSON file, generated by

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
I'm pretty sure that's true for all such systems, including things like .war files. Even if we split, say, Strawberry from ActivePerl, what if you have multiple installations of ActivePerl? Adam K On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Jan Dubois j...@activestate.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Apr 2010,

Re: Why are versions restricted to 999?

2010-04-19 Thread Adam Kennedy
I was worried that was it.  That conversion should be considered, but not enshrined in the spec as a limit. 999 revisions ought to be enough to anyone

Re: so long, CPAN

2010-09-26 Thread Adam Kennedy
If we can get the MIRROR.yaml|json system I proposed finally deployed, this rewrite would become trivially easy. Adam K On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Jarkko Hietaniemi j...@iki.fi wrote: On Sunday-201009-26 8:16, Ask Bjørn Hansen wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 4:49, Jarkko Hietaniemi wrote:

Re: Leo is skinning www.cpan.org

2010-09-26 Thread Adam Kennedy
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen a...@perl.org wrote: Related notes: would it make sense to sign the (timestamped) list of mirrors? I added some heuristic anti-hijacking stuff to a previous version of Mirror::JSON so it would at least provide a basic level of projection.

Re: Adjusting CPAN::Mirrors to make it more useful

2011-02-08 Thread Adam Kennedy
I think I may have implemented what you're looking for several years ago for JSAN, which has a client that auto-detected appropriate mirrors in a few seconds each time it starts. http://search.cpan.org/~adamk/Mirror-URI-0.90/lib/Mirror/YAML.pm Or at least, something similar to it. It

Re: How To Build A Perl Package Database

2012-12-17 Thread Adam Kennedy
Packlist 2.0 MYMETA + installed file details ? On Dec 17, 2012 12:36 AM, Tim Bunce tim.bu...@pobox.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 04:53:49PM -0800, Michael G Schwern wrote: On 2012.12.16 11:57 AM, Leon Timmermans wrote: * Where to put the database? What about non-standard install

Re: No . in @INC breaks CPAN

2016-11-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
You should probably scan CPAN for other uses of use inc::... My darker memory is throwing up some other potentially false positive red flags. File::ShareDir may be worth a look as it did some fairly funky stuff at build/test time... at one point in its history. Anything file in CPAN with an

Re: No . in @INC breaks CPAN

2016-11-15 Thread Adam Kennedy
That doesn't help those of us with a habit of naming our test modules t::Foo::Bar I think there's a fair few things with copies of test modules bundled that way. Adam > On 14 Nov. 2016, at 11:45 am, Karen Etheridge wrote: > > > In this case, adding '.' to the distribution's

Re: Network connection

2017-11-14 Thread Adam Kennedy
Nov 2017 at 9:29 pm, Adam Kennedy <a...@ali.as> wrote: > I have fragments and variations of this stuff tucked away in old code I’m > sure. > > Look at LWP::Online and Test::NeedsDisplay, and I may have done similar > things in the test suites for ORDB::* > > Adam > &g