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The question is who establishes the rules that govern IP rights -- i.e.
list owner policies.
-Declan
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:20:08AM -0800, Daniel J. Boone wrote:
Inaccurate indeed. List owner policies have nothing to do with it. Jim's
assertion, your mockery of it, and my mockery of
Old motto: "Cypherpunks write code"
New motto: "Cypherpunks lobby in state capitols, craft
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If you didn't like what Bell's attorney said on Monday, you'll really hate
what he said on Tuesday. During closing arguments, he spoke at length
about how Bell was a bright mind gone awry, off the deep end.
As for my article, I call it like I see it. Bell was slurring his
words on Monday, and
No, I'm not accusing Jim Choate of being an IRS undercover agent, just
a twit. :)
I wrote articles. Cypherpunks write code. Jim Choate writes procmail
recipies to add CDR: to every Subject: line.
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ken Brown wrote:
Leen told Tanner that all of Bell's discovery notes were at Seatac; that
Seatac would not release the notes without a court order, and that the counsellor
who would release the notes doesn't work on the weekend. Leen asked for
an opportunity to
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a rather curious legal fight
that could ultimately hold
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Norm writes:
Can a suspected pedophile claim that a virus downloaded the porn without
him knowing?
Preposterous? But can a cop or a lawyer explain why the defense is
preposterous?
Prior to the mainstreaming of Jesus Freaks and Victimology, I recall that
a study estimated the total number
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Tim's point is on-target. Read up on freedom to contract.
See also examples like Yahoo-Geocities a few years back, claiming
IP rights in posts to its site (then abandoned, but that was due to
PR outcry, not to lack of enforceable contract).
-Declan
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 10:29:03AM -0800,
from "Can hackers help stop child porn on the Net?"
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/zd/20010411/tc/can_hackers_help_stop_child_porn_on_the_net__1.html
Okay, I haven't been on usenet in a while, but
"A newsgroup on ferrets and high school football"...
It just
[Note from Matthew Gaylor: Please forward Jim's request to relevant
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 15:43:58 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Jim Bovard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Matt- seeking info on U.N. Summit on Guns
Matt:
I wonder if I could impose on you to post a
On October 11, Federal District Judge Jack Tanner ordered that David
Rice be given a new trial. Rice, 38, was
originally sentenced to die for the 1985 Christmas Eve slayings of
Charles and Annie Goldmark and their two
sons, Derek, 12, and Colin, 10, at their Seattle home. Charles Goldmark
was a
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Daniel J. Boone wrote:
List owners have nothing to do with, and cannot affect, the intellectual
property rights of list contributors. Your aspirations to the contrary
notwithstanding.
Actually they can if there is a contract that requires it and you as a IP
owner sign
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Eric Cordian wrote:
If anyone thinks the dissemination and viewing of zero-cost child porn
made possible by digital photography and the Internet involves only
"pedophiles", each of whom is slowing working their way up to victim
number 300, they need to unplug the Sex Abuse
Does anyone know who is behind this proxy? They visited one of my
websites not too long ago.
tcs-gateway13.treas.gov
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Greg Newby wrote:
In the real world, you don't even need to sign. Sending a letter
to a newspaper or calling a radio station often implicitly gives
permission to redistribute it in any form. (Ownership might
still be an issue, but IP rights go to the paper or radio
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, An Metet wrote:
Does anyone know who is behind this proxy? They visited one of my
websites not too long ago.
tcs-gateway13.treas.gov
You're not from around here are you?
IRS (Treasury)
So much for 'last words' and the 1st.
http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/04/11/ashcroft.mcveigh/index.html?s=2
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Daniel J. Boone wrote:
I wrote:
List owners have nothing to do with, and cannot affect, the intellectual
property rights of list contributors. Your aspirations to the contrary
notwithstanding.
and Tim May responded:
So you're
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:
It's all so sad and predictable and sad again. The cypherpunks list
had its glory days: Wired magazine cover stories, blossoming
technology, and, yes, even those damnable tentacles. Now it's become a
convenient way for the Feds to land convictions.
You're both correct, but you don't mention one point which you both
surely know: the net spans all kinds of cultures. Including those where
erotic pictures of post-pubescent (but under the US's age of consent)
people
are legal. And those (admittedly exotic and 'primitive', but existant)
The best name (cypherpunks) seems to be taken. Hmm. I will
have to consider. The naming of things is a ticklish business.
"cypherpunken"
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You mean like the 'igor' project I mentioned a while back?
I"m accepting suggestions that don't fall into the 'Stick it up your ass'
category. Those you can keep :)
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote:
Perhaps it is time to consider a new and different mailing
list which accepts
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, Morlock Elloi wrote:
The best name (cypherpunks) seems to be taken. Hmm. I will
have to consider. The naming of things is a ticklish business.
"cypherpunken"
"cypherkraft"?
What goes around, comes around.
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Roger, wilco. I can add at least some of these suggestions into 'igor'.
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Phillip H. Zakas wrote:
if the problem is about keeping ourselves out of trouble re: statements or
association with others on this list, I have some observations:
first-
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