Re: Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Eric Cordian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > In a criminal case, the plaintiff is the state, not the wronged > individual. ... which is something that I've found odd. Up here in the Great White North, it's the Queen who is the nominal victim of transgressions of the criminal code. Of what philo

Re: [Re: Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts]

2001-02-28 Thread LUIS VILDOSOLA
It's all in the timing. If the censors are the last to judge, they self proclaim the right to punish or take corrective action. So justice is held in a pyramid scheme where those not fortunate or not able to be on top are by definition the only liable to be judged by terrestrial powers. The odd

RE: Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts

2001-02-28 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
> Microsoft won because of superior reviews? Come on, how stupid do you > think we are? So if a company pays for glowing reviews that would be > okay? Matthew's argument is that 'network effects' do not exist, based on a tendentious piece of propaganda pushed by a right wing crank tank. The c

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2001-02-28 Thread Nomen Nescio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aimee Elizabeth Farr) recited: >Of course, you have all watched this battle for many years, so you >have a longevity of insight that I don't have. Probably just the >same-ole-same-ole to you... Believe me, you have NO idea. Then, [EMAIL PR

Re: Trolling For Conspirators

2001-02-28 Thread Daniel J. Boone
Data points: I got two literate and charming off-list messages in connection with that moron who wanted advice on committing federal crimes in connection with cellular phone conversations not involving him. They were: - Original Message - From: mike patton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMA

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Re: [RE: ]

2001-02-28 Thread LUIS VILDOSOLA
The punishment has been justified but is unjust, it lacks cognitive coherence. For all the good deeds taxes are justified to exist, they are not sustained under close scrutiny; not the scrutiny under which a court decides over physical restraint of a "tax evader". All things being equal, these p

Re: CDR: Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Eric Cordian
> Uh... Clue alert! It was the clueless teacher who brought the > charges and the prosecutor dropped them stating that the teacher could > have no expectation of privacy in a classroom of 30 students. That neither > sounds like the government nor the prosecutors. In a criminal case, the plain

Re: Why Wired is tired

2001-02-28 Thread Greg Newby
>From the Sunworld article: "When he was a fledgling cyberjournalist, Quittner wrote a puff piece in Wired about the principal members of the EFF that equated them with Ken Kesey's Merry Pranksters of the '60s (in fact, Stewart Brand was a Merry Prankster)." Funny, Brand doesn't mention that in

Re: Bell Subpoena 2

2001-02-28 Thread Declan McCullagh
If anyone else has received communication of any sort from law enforcement regarding this case -- including a subpoena -- I would be interested in hearing about it. I'm at 202 986 3455 (collect is fine) or [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Declan On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 05:57:43PM -0500, John Young wrote: >

Re: Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts

2001-02-28 Thread Colin A. Reed
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > I'll go further. The First Amendment is part of the U.S. Constitution, > and antitrust law is not. > > When the two are in conflict, the law must give way. :) > Hmm. This made me think of something blatantly obvious that I had overlooked before

Re: CDR: Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Marshall Clow
At 6:11 PM -0500 2/28/01, Michael H. Warfield wrote: >On Tue, Feb 27, 2001 at 08:38:50PM +, Steve Thompson wrote: > >> Quoting Eric Cordian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap448.htm > >> > NAVARRE, Fla. (AP) -- A high school student has been charged with >> >

Re: Why Wired is tired

2001-02-28 Thread Declan McCullagh
He's wrong; you're (not surprisingly) wrong. Wired, the magazine, is no longer what it once was. -Declan On Fri, Feb 23, 2001 at 03:41:27PM -0600, Jim Choate wrote: > http://www.sunworld.com/unixinsideronline/swol-02-2001/swol-0202-bookshelf.html > -- >The Laws of Serendipity: > >1.

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Bell and "Journalists"

2001-02-28 Thread John Young
Twice since my grand jury appearance I've been contacted by persons claiming to be journalists for comment on Jim Bell's case. I referred them to Cryptome for the best representation of my views. Both resisted that, claiming they wanted to hear from me personally. What is striking is the similar

Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Michael H. Warfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Charges dropped: > > http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/02/28/recording.charge.01.ap/index.html Ah. Apparently, saner minds prevail. Regards, Steve -- Excerpt from: Subject: ABOI: Chomsky: The Motion Picture Date: 1

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TIME.com: Nation -- The Supreme Court Clears the Air

2001-02-28 Thread Jim Choate
Ehaaa! They can get something right on occasion... http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,100828,00.html -- The Laws of Serendipity: 1. In order to discover anything, you must be looking for something. 2. If you wish to make an improved product, you must first be

Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Steve Thompson
Quoting Eric Cordian ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap448.htm > NAVARRE, Fla. (AP) -- A high school student has been charged with > violating Florida's wiretapping law after tape recording a chemistry class > lecture. Is it me, or is there something sadly despera

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Re: Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 08:52:33AM -0800, Eric Cordian wrote: > More "Zero Intelligence" from the public school system. > http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap448.htm Charges dropped: http://www.cnn.com/2001/LAW/02/28/recording.charge.01.ap/index.html > - > > NAVARRE,

spook bugs hosed by Hanssen

2001-02-28 Thread Blank Frank
Spy Suspect May Have Revealed U.S. Bugging Espionage: Hanssen left signs that he told Russia where top-secret overseas eavesdropping devices are placed, officials

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2001-02-28 Thread Adam Shostack
So, this web page doesn't work without javascript. I find that somewhat ironic, because you'd think that the ABA would be aware of the Americans With Disabilities act, which requires a reasonable accomodation; in this case that accomodation would be one less line of html (the meta-equiv refresh

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Sex, drugs, and technology - demonizing crypto

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2001-02-28 Thread Ken Brown
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Re: CDR: Re: Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts

2001-02-28 Thread David Stultz
> It appears to me that this rule is most commonly invoked by those whose > ideology and program has a marked resemblance to Nazism, and derives > from Nazi philosophers. Somehow I feel that my position (although now I see that I was wrong), was a Nazi-related view. That and I was only partially

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Another Wiretap Criminal Exposed

2001-02-28 Thread Eric Cordian
More "Zero Intelligence" from the public school system. http://www.newsday.com/ap/text/national/ap448.htm - NAVARRE, Fla. (AP) -- A high school student has been charged with violating Florida's wiretapping law after tape recording a chemistry class lecture. Asher Zaslaw, 17, pleaded not

Re: Where is IRS in Title 31 Organization

2001-02-28 Thread Big Al
The Informer has done extensive research on this over the last 10 years and what he posts to www.atgpress.com is worth reading. Big Al B.Chandler wrote: > GEE Quatloos, I cant even find "Internal Revenue Service" in title > 31 under Organization of the Department Of the Treasury! > > See 31 U.S.

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Re: FW: [SupremeLaw] meet Manuel Diaz Saldana, Secretary of the Treasury

2001-02-28 Thread Big Al
Manual has not been the Secretary for some time now. In fact three times the office has changed. The latest one is Xenia Velez Silva. Have been in constant contact by phone and mail to these turkeys. Big Al B.Chandler wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [mailto:

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Where is IRS in Title 31 Organization

2001-02-28 Thread B.Chandler
GEE Quatloos, I cant even find "Internal Revenue Service" in title 31 under Organization of the Department Of the Treasury! See 31 U.S.C. 301(f)(2): http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/31/301.html (f)(2) This is the ONLY mention of the IRS that I can find in the organization of the U.S. Treasur

FW: [SupremeLaw] meet Manuel Diaz Saldana, Secretary of the Treasury

2001-02-28 Thread B.Chandler
-Original Message- From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 4:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SupremeLaw] meet Manuel Diaz Saldana, Secretary of the Treasury Departamento De Hacienda Secretary of the Treasury Manuel Diaz Saldana (aka M

FWD: IRS is NOT "agency"

2001-02-28 Thread B.Chandler
http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/unframed/5/551.html > > Sec. 551. Definitions > > For the purpose of this subchapter - > (1) ''agency'' means each authority of the > Government of the > United States, whether or not it is within or > subject to review > by another agency, but does not i

RE:

2001-02-28 Thread B.Chandler
yes quatloos, injustices occur every day. answer this, what class of citizens existed before the 14th amendment? was every congressman and every president that served prior to the 14th amendment frauds? NO . Before the 14th Amendment "citizen of the United States" did NOT exist. Again, were ever

RE: Confusion about Free Speech - polycentric

2001-02-28 Thread Jim Choate
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: > Polycentric law is older than the law itself. The Muslims and the Christians > used to trade using the Maghribi traders. They ran a _private legal system_. > Later, we saw the rise of the Law Merchant standards. If you broke the > rules, you were out. It

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2001-02-28 Thread Ken Brown
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Re: CDR: Re: Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts

2001-02-28 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 11:23 PM 2/27/2001 -0500, David Stultz wrote: > Isn't there some sort of rule where at the first mention of "Hitler" > or "Nazi", it's the end of the thread? It appears to me that this rule is most commonly invoked by those whose ideology and program has a marked resemblance to Nazi