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Judge in Jim Bell trial says media may not quote public documents

2001-04-10 Thread Declan McCullagh
- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] - From: Declan McCullagh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Judge in Jim Bell trial says media may not quote public documents To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:11:33 -0400 X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/ User-Agent:

TannerWatch: Tanner reversed

2001-04-10 Thread Anne Fibian
9th Circuit decides - Susan Coffey won a new trial when the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Judge Jack Tanner's decision tossing out a unanimous jury decision of excessive use of force against Coffey at the secret warehouse in Pierce

Day #3: U.S. v. Jim Bell report from federal court in Tacoma

2001-04-10 Thread Declan McCullagh
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42895,00.html ATF Admits Tracking Jim Bell by Declan McCullagh ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 10:20 a.m. Apr. 6, 2001 PDT TACOMA, Washington -- The government revealed Thursday that it implanted a satellite-tracking device in a suspect's

Re: http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner

2001-04-10 Thread Robin Lee Powell
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 12:30:38AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Blank Frank wrote: http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner A TannerWatch(tm) Publication... Frank, All your links are broken (they all point to a local file system on your Vax ;-).

Re: Jim Bell Trial: Second Day

2001-04-10 Thread Declan McCullagh
She wasn't a lawyer; your PR clone suspicion is correct. She was not a technologist. Her function was only to testify that an IP address matched an account. Bell's lawyer on cross-examination never raised the point that a message posted to cpunx goes through multiple servers (including the

TannerWatch

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
Bockwinkel, a former newspaper photojournalist and editor, captured Arends' assault of Coffey on film. (The clear and graphic pictures can be viewed on the CLEAN Web site at http://www.clean.org/photos/photo1.html ). In one photo, Arends is choking the petite Coffey in a parking lot; her body is

Tanner reversed again

2001-04-10 Thread Anne Fibian
Posted by FoM on July 07, 1999 at 11:24:55 PT Source: SF Gate SAN FRANCISCO An appeals court has struck down a federal sentencing guideline and ordered a reduction in a Washington man's 6 1/2-year sentence for illegal gun possession by a felon. The guideline under which a federal judge

school censorship

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
Apr 6, 2001 - 01:16 PM Confederate T-Shirts Spark Fashion Fight in Southern Schools By Russ Bynum Associated Press Writer RICHMOND HILL, Ga. (AP) - Zane Dunn wore a banned T-shirt to school and became a rebel

TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Norm DePlume
Law And Justice by Irv Benzion When I think of Law and Justice my thoughts are directed to the film "Judgment at Nuremberg." I picture Spencer Tracy in his portrayal of the "Presiding Judge," sifting through mountains of evidence and contradictory testimony with only one objective in mind...

That latest military SNAFU

2001-04-10 Thread George
Ugh, let's see, not the crash in Vietnam, not the sub taking out the Japs... The NSA spy plane: FoxNewsChannel reports the plane was flying straight while on autopilot when it was hit. We outta send Steve Martin over to apologize. ____ _ _ \ \ / /__| | | \ \ /\ / /

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
At 05:45 AM 04/04/2001 -0400, Seth Finkelstein wrote: Tim May wrote: I see a newcomer, Seth Finkelstein, harshly criticizing Declan and others. Easy to ignore someone who wasn't even here the day before yesterday. Point of information: "nonconsentingly delurked" is more accurate than

ANNOUNCE: San Francisco Cypherpunks, 4/7, 1pm, Moscone Center North

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
Saturday April 7 Cypherpunks Meeting in San Francisco. The meeting will be at Moscone Center North, The room number will be finalized in a couple of hours, and we'll post signs at the door as well as sending out mail. This is the FIRST Saturday of the month, because the RSA conference will be

RE: Judge in Jim Bell trial says media may not quote public documents

2001-04-10 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
rumor has it that Tanner is going to replace Jackson on the Microsoft trial and vice versa. this will allow the appeals court to make an empirical test of a question that has long troubled them, which one of the judges is the greater jackass. Phill -Original Message- From:

how in the world do i join this group?

2001-04-10 Thread M0rBEus
zup, this is M0rBEus. I was just wondering how i can join your crypto group. i enjoy crypto greatly and would enjoy surronding myself with others who enjoy the same thing. If u could plz direct me to a website, pgp keys, email addresses, or whatever so that i may join =) thx 4 yor hlp (i

Investment Pact

2001-04-10 Thread Ndaye Banya
Greetings, It is with strict confidence and trust that I wish to contact you seeking for your assistance to help as regards an investment opportunity. I sincerely hope that this letter will not come as a surprise to you, or cause you any embarrassment since we neither knew each other before,

Republic.Com: Interact with Professor Sunstein at the PrincetonPress Authors Forum

2001-04-10 Thread Matthew Gaylor
At 8:27 AM -0400 4/6/01, Chuck Creesy Princeton Press wrote: Matt: Please contribute to our message forum with Cass Sunstein at http://pup.princeton.edu/sunstein/ You can leave messages for Professor Cass Sunstein in Princeton University Press's author forum. I just added my review of

Slashdot | Microchips That Evolve

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/04/10/0436220.shtml -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 01:31 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Seth is a long-term contributor to the Cyberia-L list, which a reasonable number of Cypherpunks also read or at least occasionally post to, including Declan and JYA. He's been a major contributor with The Censorware Project There is good

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread James A. Donald
-- At 01:31 PM 4/6/2001 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Seth [has] been a major contributor with The Censorware Project Many on the censorware project display the same attitude to civil rights as the infamous Dean Brodhead, who refused five orthodox jewish students permission to live off campus

RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

2001-04-10 Thread Matthew Gaylor
"James A. Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is good and evil censorware, and many in the censorware project were more concerned with good censorware than evil. The censorware project was a typical pinko project, directed at private choice, instead of state power. I don't know what you've

Re: CDR: TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Norm Deplume wrote: Law And Justice by Irv Benzion ... You are probably unaware as was I that it is illegal to criticize a federal judge or his/her actions or to cause "disrespect" to the federal court system. A federal judge may if in his/her opinion such an occurrence arises, issue a

Re: CDR: Re: Pleading the 5th

2001-04-10 Thread Daniel J. Boone
Inaccurate indeed. List owner policies have nothing to do with it. Jim's assertion, your mockery of it, and my mockery of your similar assertion back in 1997 all had to do with intellectual property rights, not list owner policies. I am looking forward to hearing you explain that the assertion

http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner/ -repaired

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Norm D'Plume wrote: http://www.geocities.com/judgetanner/ A TannerWatch Publication for citizen students of the legal process Most of the links on that page are screwed up. (File:// URLs mostly.) Fixed. Also expanded, with more biographical/career/bias notes. ...

Re: FC: More on public documents, jury lists, and baiting a judge

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
At 08:21 AM 4/10/01 -0700, Declan McCullagh wrote: For bookmarking purposes, I've put links to the series of articles I wrote about Jim Bell from his raid to his trial here: http://www.cluebot.com/search.pl?topic=ap-politics Thanks. I've added that link and one to cryptome. The latest working

The Deconstruction of James Dalton Bell

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Ah, I see Declan has posted his impressions of Day 5 on Wired News. http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,42951,00.html Jim Bell's Strange Day in Court by Declan McCullagh Bell's lawyer, Robert Leen, twice asked U.S. District Judge Jack Tanner to halt the proceedings because his

Re: CDR: RE: Screwing Jim Bell and Cypherpunks

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Tim May Wrote: I think the Bell case indicates the need for Cypherpunks to start writing code again, and stop engaging in meatspace theatrics. First, Bell's actions are not the actions of most members of this mailing list. Frankly, this is a logical error: referring to "Cypherpunks" as a

Re: hooks in browsers?

2001-04-10 Thread Greg Broiles
At 12:20 PM 4/10/2001 -0700, Ray Dillinger wrote: It's probably do-able to write a little application that runs on the host machine -- and when the browser loads a website, the application consults freenet asking for commentary from other clients about that website. You could do this a couple of

Inferno: Fw: [nylug-announce] [nylug-talk] Tuesday 24 April 2001: Big Meeting on Privacy (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
-- Forwarded message -- Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:08:05 -0400 From: Any Mouse Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Club Inferno [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Inferno: Fw: [nylug-announce] [nylug-talk] Tuesday 24 April 2001: Big Meeting on Privacy (fwd) - Original Message -

Re: TannerWatch: Jack don't need no body language

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Eric Cordian wrote: I've always regarded this as a major loophole in our "nation of laws," namely that a judge can order you to do anything, and jail you if you refuse. More 'British Common Law' crap. Even a judge should need probable cause and must present it to

Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Norm DePlume
used for two different systems." http://www.latimes.com/editions/orange/20010410/t30569.html

Re: Federal tracking of drivers

2001-04-10 Thread Morlock Elloi
--- Norm DePlume [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: choice excerpt: Information compiled by the Border Patrol on PAL users is confidential, and federal officials are concerned about others

Systolix DSP

2001-04-10 Thread Gareth Jones
Dear Sir, I am writing to you either as a registered user of one of Systolix free DSP design tools (FilterExpress, FilterSim, FilterWizard), or because you have expressed an interest in our products. As part of our development activities we occasionally survey our software users for feedback on

HR.com's eBulletin for the Week of April 9, 2001

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Title: HR.com's eBulletin for the Week of April 9, 2001

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OPT: UCITA Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
Well, actually it's a plan to make a plan ;) We intend the following: - Identify the several bills (UCITA, UEITA, etc.) that are currently in the Texas legislature for consideration. We believe this count is currently at five (5). - Identify pro and con sources of

Tanner article (nicely formatted for you sensitive lads)

2001-04-10 Thread Norm D'Plume
The Judge in the case was a Carter appointee who came out of retirement just to hear Al’s case. Judge Tanner’s behavior in the trial created a court transcript that can only be described as

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Slashdot | Rec.humor.funny Threatened by MasterCard

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://slashdot.org/articles/01/04/10/162211.shtml -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo

Java cryptanalysis program: the DSA flaw in OpenPGP (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo Group ,::;::-. James Choate

Ohio Shooting Protest Resumes

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/htx/ap/20010410/us/shooting_protest_4.html -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe

UPI News Article: Cato Blasts Danforth Waco Report

2001-04-10 Thread Jim Choate
http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=175900 -- To speak algebraically, Mr. M. is execrable, but Mr. G. is (x+1)-ecrable. Edgar Allan Poe The Armadillo

Re: Tanner article (nicely formatted for you sensitive lads)

2001-04-10 Thread Eric Cordian
Norm Writes: The Judge in the case was a Carter appointee who came out of retirement just to hear Al’s case. Judge Tanner’s behavior in the trial created a court transcript that can only be

Re: [alg] OPT: UCITA Cypherpunks - We got a plan...

2001-04-10 Thread Paul Elliott
When are these meetings going to be? -- Paul Elliott 1(512)837-9345 1(512)837-1096 [EMAIL PROTECTED]PMB 181, 11900 Metric Blvd Suite J http://www.io.com/~pelliott/pme/ Austin TX 78758-3117

genetic databases: not just for iceland anymore, good for warrants

2001-04-10 Thread Blank Frank
Some months ago someone posted about genetic databases being harvested from Iceland, and suggested other places were being surveyed too. Here's a ref for disbelievers. And an unrelated ref on *using* the *state's* DB to bust people based on that DB alone. _Science_ v 291, 16 mar 2001, p 2075:

Fwd: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Bill Stewart
On the matter of Bell using Oregon DMV databases: Gordon stated that DMV access is not legal for non-commercial use, noting that both Oregon state and federal law restricted their use. At least for a while, the Oregon DMV sold their database on CDROMs. Then somebody upset them by putting one

Re: Fwd: Jim Bell Trial: Fourth Day (fwd)

2001-04-10 Thread Alan Olsen
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: On the matter of Bell using Oregon DMV databases: Gordon stated that DMV access is not legal for non-commercial use, noting that both Oregon state and federal law restricted their use. At least for a while, the Oregon DMV sold their database on