> > >Well, suffice it to say that there are a lot of "clearly special cases." > > > > > And suffice it to say that if we drop probation, financial exchanges and > > corporate topics and stick with conversations ( information exchanges ) > > between ordinary individuals all is well but keep pushing the technology > > since the bad guys will never give up. > > This rather narrow view misses the point of what all that 'conversation' > is about. It certainly isn't self-referential, > > "Hi" > > "Hello" > > {lot of silence w/o a topic} > Probationees are still officially wards of the state, not "free" individuals. One "special case" was an actual exchange of funds using conventional methods. And corporations have had a raft of regulations for over a hundred years that have nothing to do with the communications of horridinary ( should that be horde-inary? ) people. People have no ( 0 ) **pre-communication** obligations regarding the 5W's. Who What Where Why When. Privacy measures do not constitute probable cause. Privacy reduces ( or removes ) the already minimal post-communication obligations. >From this come the good things and a few bad things but I think on the whole there are more good things than bad things. If we were to count things and classify them as good things and bad things...where was I? one, two, three... Mike