Right, it's not certain. But this is a semantically null statement:
Unless you have a mole in the court, that could be said about any
case.
It's true that the appeals court asked some questions that were widely
interpreted as being favorable in a followup document, but their
actual questions
On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 07:53:38AM -0700, David Honig wrote:
At 07:30 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
The DMCA, according to the court, clearly prevents the use of DeCSS
and css-auth, even in the case that it has a legitimate use, because
it circumvents the access control measures
At 06:15 PM 6/21/01 -0500, Jim Choate wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, David Honig wrote:
My argument, to any judges reading, is that its *not* circumvention if
you've
bought the damn thing, no matter how you decode it.
If you paid for satellite TV but you build your own descrambler, its *not*
Riad S. Wahby wrote:
I'm not agreeing with the DMCA, or with the judge's decision regarding
DeCSS. Neither are palatable, to say the least. The original
question was can this be done legally. The answer is: if someone
paid to develop a licensed implementation of the DVD standard, yes. I
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Up to this point, I agree with everything you have said.
The EBay advert could have been selling cp because there was nothing
about playback implied. Presumably you would copy your DVD files
from CDs onto a hard drive and then play them back. As
At 02:36 PM 6/21/01 +0200, Lars Gaarden wrote:
The DVDCCA license requires that DVD equipment never allow access to
the raw digital data.
http://www.dvdcca.org/data/css/css_proc_spec11.pdf
If you buy the media (and more importantly, the license to play
the content) you can use any
At 01:48 PM 6/21/01 +0200, Lars Gaarden wrote:
David Honig wrote:
Not if you have lawfully paid for the content.
As read by the MPAA, the DMCA enable them to sell you a locked house
and then drag you to court if you try to pick the lock.
Look everyone, I know the judge at the current level of
At 11:15 AM 6/21/01 -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
The EBay advert could have been selling cp because there was nothing
about playback implied. Presumably you would copy your DVD files
from CDs onto a hard drive and then play them back. As the ad said,
perfectly legal.
You don't need to
At 03:37 AM 6/16/01 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can anyone figure this out?
It's a link from the ebay splash page,
so it's high profile.
Is it DeCSS?
Why would it be? You don't need DeCSS to copy the files on DVDs.
At 03:02 PM 6/20/01 -0400, Riad S. Wahby wrote:
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why would it be? You don't need DeCSS to copy the files on DVDs.
No, but you do need to authenticate with the DVD-ROM drive. To do
this, at least under Linux, you have to invoke the proper ioctls, and
Linux
David Honig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Linux is a well known anti-american operating system. :-P
:-)
Even so, the fact that it's Linux isn't the point. The fact is, you
have to do some hardware handshaking before you can read the data. It
just happens that it's via an ioctl interface in Linux,
On 20 Jun 2001, at 15:16, David Honig wrote:
do a cryptographic authentication procedure with the drive. Code to
do this is covered under circumvention device in the DMCA according
to the 2600-MPAA case.
Not if you have lawfully paid for the content.
have you filed an amicus curiae
At 03:47 PM 6/16/2001 -0500, Joseph Ashwood wrote:
Sounds to me like it's just a plain binary copy. The software takes the data
off the DVD, and puts it on the media, when it runs out of space it asks for
more media.
If so it not very useful. Lots of such free utilities out there for that.
As
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