Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-22 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, Tim May wrote: You may be joking, but this sure has the whiff of Choate's attempts to trigger a raid on me, You're a fucking paranoid, schizo, liar. The ultimate authority...resides

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-22 Thread Jim Choate
On Sun, 22 Apr 2001, John Young wrote: Jim Choate aptly accused everybody: You're a fucking paranoid, schizo, liar. That's me, all right, an admirer of country porn, this list. Actually it was only addressed to Tim's public remarks about my supposed actions and intent. But hey, if the

Re: CDR: Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-22 Thread measl
On Sat, 21 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: Gakkk.. That's ~27 megabits/second, over half a T3. You can still get the whole thing for $100 a month with a satellite dish. Or at least you could earlier this year. From where??? The standard home satellite dish (ala Dish Network) doesn't

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-21 Thread Declan McCullagh
At 05:44 PM 4/21/01 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: Gakkk.. That's ~27 megabits/second, over half a T3. I remember when I could *read* all of Usenet, I remember (circa 1988) when I could read about 30 newsgroups. I'm afraid you predate me by a few years. :) Another sysadmin (in town for the NORML

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-18 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Bill Stewart wrote: I don't know if Jim meant to send that reply about Usenet; the sentence was chopped off in the middle, just after the glaring incorrectness :-) Jim Choate replied to Ray Dillinger: Usenet is an example of a system which is fully distributed.

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-16 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Jim Choate wrote: On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: In a fully distributed state, the number of elements that have to fail in order to make the system not work is the same as the number of elements in the system. Fully distributed systems (as in plan D)

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-16 Thread Jim Choate
On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: I was offering a definition for 'fully distributed.' You were doing more than that, you setting boundary conditions on the 'participants' as well, it's overly strict and limits the definitions usefullness becuase it a priori eliminates some sorts of

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and , Propaganda...

2001-04-15 Thread Jim Choate
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote: In a fully distributed state, the number of elements that have to fail in order to make the system not work is the same as the number of elements in the system. Fully distributed systems (as in plan D) have the structure of water. Actually

Re: The Culture of Secrecy, Disinformation, and Propaganda...

2001-04-13 Thread Ray Dillinger
On Fri, 13 Apr 2001, Matthew Gaylor wrote: When living systems - including people like us - spontaneously reorganize themselves, we call it hierarchical restructuring. A hierarchical organization is like a tree. Hierarchical restructuring (as in plan C) results in a different, and