Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Jon Phillips
It could interface with the shared resources spec and be called
something catchy...but isn't that what nautilus provides already ;)

Jon

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jon A. Cruzj...@joncruz.org wrote:

 On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Christoph Schäfer wrote:

 However, there is another area that might deserve some work. As at least
 some

 of you know, Adobe CSx provides a software called Adobe Bridge

 (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/bridge/), a media/asset
 manager

 that can be accessed by all CS apps. It would be great to have something

 similar for FLOSS graphics apps, including easily accessible interfaces.

 Such a project may also help to speed up the further development of shared

 resources and specs.

 That aspect does sound handy. With standards on contents and locations, it
 would even be easy to get something going that was a supplemental
 application.
 Personally I'd love to see much that would include gradients, patterns, etc.
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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Thursday 20 August 2009, Jon Phillips wrote:
 It could interface with the shared resources spec and be called
 something catchy...but isn't that what nautilus provides already ;)
yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management application 
(wether nautilus or dolphin), they can delete/move/copy/add ressources, and 
they can also tag them (through nepomuk). What is a bit missing is a search 
function, but then again when they have good integration with indexer (be it 
beagle, tracker, strigi, or whatever) then it should be easy to make them 
search for ressources.

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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Yuval Levy
Cyrille Berger wrote:
 yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management application 
 (wether nautilus or dolphin)

yes, file managers are the way to go, not the (IMO useless) Bridge.

I wonder if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc could be revived and 
if a new implementation and/or the progress since then in hardware and 
software would solve the issues that lead to the demise.

 From the wikipedia article: Apple officially relinquished the last 
trademark on the name OpenDoc on June 11, 2005.. Catchy name for free, 
courtesy of the forbidden fruit ;-) ?

Yuv
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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Kai-Uwe Behrmann
Am 20.08.09, 18:13 +0400 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine:
 IIRC, it has functionality similar to what Oyranos does (or is
 supposed to do) -- applying CMS settings consistently for the CS.

For Oyranos is at least a front end needed like the in development being 
Kolor Manager.


kind regards
Kai-Uwe Behrmann
-- 
developing for colour management 
www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org

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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Cyrille Berger
On Thursday 20 August 2009, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote:
 Am 20.08.09, 18:13 +0400 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine:
  IIRC, it has functionality similar to what Oyranos does (or is
  supposed to do) -- applying CMS settings consistently for the CS.

 For Oyranos is at least a front end needed like the in development being
 Kolor Manager.
And there too, I think the logical position of CMS settings is in KDE 
Settings or Gnome Settings (or Windows Settings).

This doesn't prevent application to link directly to those component, we can 
imagine having a menu entry called manage your asset which open 
dolphin/nautillus in the directory with assets. And I do intend to embedd the 
kolor manager panel in Krita's configuration dialog, when I will have time to 
start using oyranos in Krita.

We have to keep in mind that Adobe do some of the thing it does because they 
don't have control on what can be done at each level of the OS, while we have 
the opportunity to do the right thing :)
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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Sven Langkamp
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Sven Langkamp sven.langk...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Yuval Levy creat...@sfina.com wrote:

 Cyrille Berger wrote:
  yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management
 application
  (wether nautilus or dolphin)

 yes, file managers are the way to go, not the (IMO useless) Bridge.

 I wonder if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc could be revived and
 if a new implementation and/or the progress since then in hardware and
 software would solve the issues that lead to the demise.

  From the wikipedia article: Apple officially relinquished the last
 trademark on the name OpenDoc on June 11, 2005.. Catchy name for free,
 courtesy of the forbidden fruit ;-) ?


 We did something similar with flake in KOffice. Basically it allows to
 extend documents with custom components.
 I think data exchange between apps is much more important than having the
 same UI. This is the point where the Adobe products currently shine:
 Everything it integrated.
 When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in
 Scribus you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while
 we have some great tools the integration between them is missing.

 Of course you still have the same problems as for the UI, there is lots of
 legacy code and different toolkits.


We did something similar with flake in KOffice. Basically it allows to
extend documents with custom components.
I think data exchange between apps is much more important than having the
same UI. This is the point where the Adobe products currently shine:
Everything it integrated.
When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in Scribus
you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while we have
some great tools the integration between them is missing.

Of course you still have the same problems as for the UI, there is lots of
legacy code and different toolkits.
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Re: [CREATE] (no subject)

2009-08-20 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sven Langkamp wrote:

 When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in Scribus
 you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while we have
 some great tools the integration between them is missing.

Indeed. Better integration on file formats level is more important
than different UIs.

Alexandre
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