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hi valek If anybody has access to working copy of PageMaker 1-3 or any samples of files in that format, and wish to help to reverse engineer those, please unicast me. you come one week too late! on monday i've thrown away a set of floppy disks with a very old pagemaker for mac on it! and my zip disks + zip driver are also gone. with copies of pagemaker for windows. during the last month. why am i moving? g a.l.e ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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Hello Create, If anybody has access to working copy of PageMaker 1-3 or any samples of files in that format, and wish to help to reverse engineer those, please unicast me. -- Cheers, Valek ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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It could interface with the shared resources spec and be called something catchy...but isn't that what nautilus provides already ;) Jon On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Jon A. Cruzj...@joncruz.org wrote: On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: However, there is another area that might deserve some work. As at least some of you know, Adobe CSx provides a software called Adobe Bridge (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/bridge/), a media/asset manager that can be accessed by all CS apps. It would be great to have something similar for FLOSS graphics apps, including easily accessible interfaces. Such a project may also help to speed up the further development of shared resources and specs. That aspect does sound handy. With standards on contents and locations, it would even be easy to get something going that was a supplemental application. Personally I'd love to see much that would include gradients, patterns, etc. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create -- Jon Phillips http://rejon.org/ +1.415.830.3884 (sf/global) +86.134.3957.2035 (china) Sent from San Francisco, California, United States ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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On Thursday 20 August 2009, Jon Phillips wrote: It could interface with the shared resources spec and be called something catchy...but isn't that what nautilus provides already ;) yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management application (wether nautilus or dolphin), they can delete/move/copy/add ressources, and they can also tag them (through nepomuk). What is a bit missing is a search function, but then again when they have good integration with indexer (be it beagle, tracker, strigi, or whatever) then it should be easy to make them search for ressources. -- Cyrille Berger ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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Cyrille Berger wrote: yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management application (wether nautilus or dolphin) yes, file managers are the way to go, not the (IMO useless) Bridge. I wonder if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc could be revived and if a new implementation and/or the progress since then in hardware and software would solve the issues that lead to the demise. From the wikipedia article: Apple officially relinquished the last trademark on the name OpenDoc on June 11, 2005.. Catchy name for free, courtesy of the forbidden fruit ;-) ? Yuv ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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Am 20.08.09, 18:13 +0400 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine: IIRC, it has functionality similar to what Oyranos does (or is supposed to do) -- applying CMS settings consistently for the CS. For Oyranos is at least a front end needed like the in development being Kolor Manager. kind regards Kai-Uwe Behrmann -- developing for colour management www.behrmann.name + www.oyranos.org ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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On Thursday 20 August 2009, Kai-Uwe Behrmann wrote: Am 20.08.09, 18:13 +0400 schrieb Alexandre Prokoudine: IIRC, it has functionality similar to what Oyranos does (or is supposed to do) -- applying CMS settings consistently for the CS. For Oyranos is at least a front end needed like the in development being Kolor Manager. And there too, I think the logical position of CMS settings is in KDE Settings or Gnome Settings (or Windows Settings). This doesn't prevent application to link directly to those component, we can imagine having a menu entry called manage your asset which open dolphin/nautillus in the directory with assets. And I do intend to embedd the kolor manager panel in Krita's configuration dialog, when I will have time to start using oyranos in Krita. We have to keep in mind that Adobe do some of the thing it does because they don't have control on what can be done at each level of the OS, while we have the opportunity to do the right thing :) -- Cyrille Berger ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Sven Langkamp sven.langk...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Yuval Levy creat...@sfina.com wrote: Cyrille Berger wrote: yeah somehow, I like the idea of leaving this to file management application (wether nautilus or dolphin) yes, file managers are the way to go, not the (IMO useless) Bridge. I wonder if http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDoc could be revived and if a new implementation and/or the progress since then in hardware and software would solve the issues that lead to the demise. From the wikipedia article: Apple officially relinquished the last trademark on the name OpenDoc on June 11, 2005.. Catchy name for free, courtesy of the forbidden fruit ;-) ? We did something similar with flake in KOffice. Basically it allows to extend documents with custom components. I think data exchange between apps is much more important than having the same UI. This is the point where the Adobe products currently shine: Everything it integrated. When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in Scribus you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while we have some great tools the integration between them is missing. Of course you still have the same problems as for the UI, there is lots of legacy code and different toolkits. We did something similar with flake in KOffice. Basically it allows to extend documents with custom components. I think data exchange between apps is much more important than having the same UI. This is the point where the Adobe products currently shine: Everything it integrated. When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in Scribus you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while we have some great tools the integration between them is missing. Of course you still have the same problems as for the UI, there is lots of legacy code and different toolkits. ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 8:39 PM, Sven Langkamp wrote: When you edit an svg file with Inkscape/Karbon and import it e.g. in Scribus you often get a message that some feature isn't supported. So while we have some great tools the integration between them is missing. Indeed. Better integration on file formats level is more important than different UIs. Alexandre ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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Am Dienstag, 18. August 2009 20:02:17 schrieb Brian Vidal castillo: what about working with the GIMP UI redesign and take advantage from this process and reflect this on Inkscape or Scribus? this can be achieved I think... Somebody said Inkscape and Scribus are working on the UI, well GIMP has a big movement on this and we can use that. Hi, Sorry for joining the discussion at this late stage. The main concerns and obstacles have already been mentioned by others, and I really think that except for common icons and shortcuts there is not much that can be done. To expect that any of the projects would change their toolkit is illusionary at best. However, there is another area that might deserve some work. As at least some of you know, Adobe CSx provides a software called Adobe Bridge (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/bridge/), a media/asset manager that can be accessed by all CS apps. It would be great to have something similar for FLOSS graphics apps, including easily accessible interfaces. Such a project may also help to speed up the further development of shared resources and specs. Any thoughts? Cheers Christoph ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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On Aug 19, 2009, at 8:20 PM, Christoph Schäfer wrote: However, there is another area that might deserve some work. As at least some of you know, Adobe CSx provides a software called Adobe Bridge (http://www.adobe.com/products/creativesuite/bridge/), a media/ asset manager that can be accessed by all CS apps. It would be great to have something similar for FLOSS graphics apps, including easily accessible interfaces. Such a project may also help to speed up the further development of shared resources and specs. That aspect does sound handy. With standards on contents and locations, it would even be easy to get something going that was a supplemental application. Personally I'd love to see much that would include gradients, patterns, etc.___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create
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what about working with the GIMP UI redesign and take advantage from this process and reflect this on Inkscape or Scribus? this can be achieved I think... Somebody said Inkscape and Scribus are working on the UI, well GIMP has a big movement on this and we can use that. -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ CREATE mailing list CREATE@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/create