Dear Francesco,
Thank you for these important considerations. I do support your broader
vision. I see several specific challenges that should better be
respected on a common path to this vision, which I'd like to explicate
and write up the next days, so that we can discuss and effectively
address them together.
Kind regards,
Martin
On 3/24/2021 10:08 AM, Francesco Beretta via Crm-sig wrote:
Dear Martin,
It is to me to thank you so much for taking the time to restate the
whole issue from the point of view of the methodology used to develop
the CRM, making very clear the reasons for the decision that was taken
by the SIG. I understand your arguments and they are certainly robust
in the point of view of the scientific method, and more specifically
physics.
My concern is about the adoption of the CIDOC CRM by a larger
community, making it a widely used ontology in the domain of digital
humanities and social sciences, which are interconnected with museums
and other GLAM actors, all of them being active in the domain of
cultural heritage, for conservation or for scientific exploration.
Restricting the scope of the E16 Measurement class after years of use
in a more generic sense, whether or not it is the substance intended
by the insiders from the beginning, poses in my opinion a problem
which I think should be analysed from this larger point of view. More
in general the methodology the SIG adopts to develop the CRM should in
my opinion take into account this development towards a larger
community of users and the need expressed by more and more people and
projects to have an ontology to fill the interoperability gap in
cultural heritage domain intended in a broad, multi-disciplinary sense.
These considerations also apply to the articulation between the
different extensions in the CRM family, in which the approaches of the
different disciplines can be expressed more clearly, and refer to wide
spread standards in the different domains, leaving CRMbase with a
generic character that makes it the pivot of interoperability. It
should be noted that the growing demand is not only for data
integration but also, and especially, for new information production.
I personally advocate the adoption of CIDOC CRM in the context of this
broader vision, and often seek to make clear to external users
methodological choices taken by the CRM SIG, and the meaning of
aspects of the ontology that are less directly understandable, without
specific training, in communities wishing to adopt it. And I believe,
especially when I compare our activity with that of the maintainers of
other standards, such as TEI, that a more community driven approach in
the development of the CRM would facilitate its understanding and
adoption, and thus further enhance the value of all the work that has
been done over the years to develop the robust model that we know and
cherish.
With all my thanks and best wishes
Francesco
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Dr. habil. Francesco Beretta
Chargé de recherche au CNRS,
Axe de recherche histoire numérique,
Laboratoire de recherche historique Rhône-Alpes
LARHRA UMR CNRS 5190,
MSH LSE,
14, Avenue Berthelot
69363 LYON CEDEX 07
+ 33 (0)6 51 8 4 48 84
Publications
<https://halshs.archives-ouvertes.fr/search/index/?qa[auth_t][]=Francesco+Beretta&sort=producedDate_tdate+desc>
Le projet dataforhistory.org <http://dataforhistory.org/> – Ontology
Management Environment OntoME <http://ontome.dataforhistory.org/>
Projet "FAIR data" en histoire
<http://phn-wiki.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/doku.php?id=fairdata:accueil>
Le projet symogih.org <http://symogih.org/>– SPARQL endpoint
<http://symogih.org/?q=rdf-publication>
Portail de ressources géo-historiques GEO-LARHRA
<http://geo-larhra.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/>
Portail de ressources textuelles
<http://xml-portal.symogih.org/index.html> au format XML
Cours Outils numériques pour les sciences historiques
<http://phn-wiki.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/doku.php?id=intro_histoire_numerique:accueil>
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Dr. Martin Doerr
Honorary Head of the
Center for Cultural Informatics
Information Systems Laboratory
Institute of Computer Science
Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)
N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,
GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece
Vox:+30(2810)391625
Email: mar...@ics.forth.gr
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