Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Hi Athina! What causes the bird to go from a to b, I guess is the simplest way to put it. Does it just happen? Is the bird just present in the event of its migration? G On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 11:22 AM athinak wrote: > Hello, > > I am probably missing something here, but regarding these

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread Dominic Oldman via Crm-sig
Hi Just for clarity (I'm not sure whether George's reference was to me), my argument was that there are many practical things we can do to encourage historical contextualisation with the CIDOC CRM without any model changes, which we should be paying more attention to, and this is related to

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread athinak via Crm-sig
Hello, I am probably missing something here, but regarding these databases, in which cases these animals are documented as actors? It seems that there are documentations about births and traps and capturing events, but the discussion is about activities carried out by them, right? From my

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Hi George, I'd prefer to let the biologists talk about that. To my best knowledge of real cases, this is a much debated question. For the time being, I am sorry I have no time to provide details. All the best, Martin On 10/12/2021 10:02 AM, George Bruseker wrote: On the expertise

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Hi Martin, I'm also pressed for time but above wrote out an argument. Best, George On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 10:17 AM Martin Doerr wrote: > Hi George, > > I'd prefer to let the biologists talk about that. To my best knowledge > of real cases, this is a much debated question. For the time being,

Re: [Crm-sig] New Issue: Non-human Actors

2021-10-12 Thread George Bruseker via Crm-sig
Hi all, Here are some examples of databases that deal with individual or collectivites of animals NOT as THINGS but as AGENTS: EMU: Pest Tracking in Museums http://help.emu.axiell.com/v6.4/en/Topics/EMu/Traps%20and%20Pest%20Events%20modules.htm Here's a database that tracks the migratory paths