Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

Dear all, Just to remind you that there is some documentation for E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation in the RDFS implementation guidelines document: https://cidoc-crm.org/sites/default/files/issue%20443%20-%20Implementing%20CIDOC%20CRM%20in%20RDF%20v1.1.pdf in the section "Language of an

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

I am working on that! Best, Martin On 12/16/2022 11:27 AM, George Bruseker wrote: Dear both, I'm too covidy still to follow this in detail but I think the issue was left, for the notes to show, for Martin to provide an example to show the problem he sees that we cannot see. Cheers,

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

While this is interesting, the issue is not to re-engineer names and languages from first principles. There is an existing class, E33_E41_Linguistic_Appellation, which is in use in many projects and products around the world. The issue, as raised by George, is that it is thought that it would be

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

Dear Martin, Rob, If we consider the intended phenomenon in reality, we can observe (through everyday experience or documentation) that humans use names for identifying things. Insofar as humans live in cultural contexts, and these are realized through languages, these names are in some way

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

Dear both, I'm too covidy still to follow this in detail but I think the issue was left, for the notes to show, for Martin to provide an example to show the problem he sees that we cannot see. Cheers, George On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 9:47 PM Martin Doerr via Crm-sig < crm-sig@ics.forth.gr>

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

Dear Robert, On 12/15/2022 4:57 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote: This doesn't meet the requirements, unfortunately. To my best understanding, and of others on this list, it has not made sufficiently clear so far by you which semantics the linguistic Appellation should comprise.  Following our

Re: [Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

This doesn't meet the requirements, unfortunately. sdh:C11 is a temporal entity -- the state of being named something -- and not a name itself. While interesting, as previously States have been widely decreed as an anti-pattern to be avoided, it does not meet the requirements set forth for

[Crm-sig] Issue 624, linguistic Appellation

Dear Francesco, dear George, After the discussion in the last CRM SIG meeting, I propose to follow Francesco's "sdh:C11 Appellation in a Language class." as *a longpath for P1*. I propose to generalize the context. It could be a language, it could