Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Øyvind Eide via Crm-sig
YES All the best, Øyvind > Am 19.03.2021 um 11:37 schrieb Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig > : > > Dear all, > > At the last session of the last CRM SIG meeting we discussed issue 511 and > voted to accept the reduction of the range of property P39 measured from E1 > CRM Entity to E18

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig
​Yes Chr-Emil Ore From: Crm-sig on behalf of Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig Sent: 19 March 2021 11:37 To: crm-sig Subject: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote Dear all, At the last session of the last CRM SIG meeting we discussed issue 511 and voted to accept the

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Weiss Christian SNM via Crm-sig
Yes! Christian Von: Crm-sig Im Auftrag von Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. März 2021 12:29 An: crm-sig Betreff: Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote ​Yes Chr-Emil Ore From: Crm-sig mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Hiebel, Gerald via Crm-sig
YES, Best, Gerald From: Crm-sig on behalf of Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig Reply to: "[email protected]" Date: Friday, 19. March 2021 at 11:49 To: crm-sig Subject: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote Dear all, At the last session of the last CRM SIG meeting we discussed issue 511 and voted to

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Stefan Gradmann via Crm-sig
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Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Robert Sanderson via Crm-sig
YES Thanks everyone! On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 6:42 AM Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig < [email protected]> wrote: > Dear all, > > At the last session of the last CRM SIG meeting we discussed issue 511 and > voted to accept the reduction of the range of property P39 measured from E1 > CRM Entity

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Francesco Beretta via Crm-sig
Dear all, as already stated in the SIG meeting, I'm concerned with monotonicity, and more largely with substantially changing the substance of a class without changing its identifier: E16 remains E16 but "measuring the nominal monetary value of a collection of coins" is now _excluded_. So

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig
Hm, Your veto has the consequence that the issue has to be postponed to the next physical(that is electronical) meeting. This leaves us in an interesting situation. ​"At the last session of the last CRM SIG meeting we discussed issue 511 and voted to accept the reduction of the range of

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Franco Niccolucci via Crm-sig
I strongly agree with Francesco. Some time ago I wrote a paper about reliability assessment, suggesting that it could be considered a sort of measurement, perhaps a subclass of E16. It was not a proposal for the CRM SIG, just considerations about the fact that at present there is no

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear Franco, Now I am fairly confused about with what you actually agree: You write: "This concept was, indeed, an Attribute Assignment - quite obviously as it is its superclass so every measurement is an attribute assignment. But what should be pursued, in my opinion, is the right balance

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear Francesco, Your concerns well respected, please let me explain a few things: Firstly, this e-vote is not about the reduction of the range of P39 from E1 CRM Entity to E18 Physical Thing. The reduction was decided in the last CRM-SIG with good majority after considering all pros and

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Francesco Beretta via Crm-sig
Dear Martin, Christian-Emil, all, In order not to block a development that seems to be largely consensual, and considering that my veto apparently violates the SIG rules, I withdraw it and simply vote NO. If the majority thinks that the problem I have pointed to is not a problem and that

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Franco Niccolucci via Crm-sig
and you may have noticed that I did not vote - I just wanted to stimulate reflection, and I will not bore you anymore. I will reply Martin directly. Franco Prof. Franco Niccolucci Director, VAST-LAB PIN - U. of Florence Scientific Coordinator ARIADNEplus Technology Director 4CH Editor-in-Chief

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Christian-Emil Smith Ore via Crm-sig
Dear Francesco, You did not violate any rule. My point was simply that the reduction has already been accepted. The question was about an adjustment of the scope notes so that they were in harmony with the reduced range. I had some concern about the reduction but ended with the conclusion that

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Dear Fancesco, Thank you very much for reconsidering and withdrawing your veto. By mistake, I send my message before finishing it. Please let me be more analytical about the arguments. Your arguments in the SIG meeting have been well understood and well respected, and been evaluated against

Re: [Crm-sig] 511 e-vote

2021-03-23 Thread Martin Doerr via Crm-sig
Der Christian-Emil, all, I agree in all you say below. I'd like to mention that we have the issue about position measurements, and data evaluation as inference making in CRMinf. I'd suggest to see these things together for a wider theory. Best, Martin On 3/23/2021 10:12 PM, Christian-Emil