Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] [nebula-dev] Nebula Grid is available from Kepler update site

2013-07-02 Thread Wayne Beaton
I've updated the database. I'll work through how this got messed up, and how we move forward with Tom and Wim. Wayne On 07/01/2013 06:00 PM, Tom Schindl wrote: 2. Nebula apparently has not produced a 1.0 release despite a

[cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Schaefer
Hey gang, We have a discussion going in the CDT community and we are currently planning out how to achieve a 6 month release cycle. The feeling is that we need to get new features out faster to our users. The year long wait we currently have is making releases sluggish and I fear it's slowing

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Igor Fedorenko
I agree, one year is way too long. I am not even sure 6 months is often enough. We had three m2e releases between Juno and Kepler, and I consider m2e mature, (relatively) low-activity project. At the same time, I never use R builds myself, I always use M-builds as primary development environment

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Schaefer
Funny, that came up in our conversation too. Years ago, M releases were awesome. They always had new features and the quality was pretty good. But then the quality stopped being so good and there were less features, so people cared less about M releases. And that has left a long period of time

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Ian Bull
One of the things we need to understand is *what do we want from a release train?* 1. Is it simply a release of the latest and greatest stuff Eclipse has? 2. Is it a set of plugins / components that are known to 'work together'? 3. Is it a co-ordinated marketing exercise? 4. Is it a snap-shot in

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Igor Fedorenko
What's the point of releasing often if there are no new features? -- Regards, Igor On 2013-07-02 11:56 PM, Doug Schaefer wrote: Funny, that came up in our conversation too. Years ago, M releases were awesome. They always had new features and the quality was pretty good. But then the quality

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Schaefer
Spurring on the development of new features is part of what's driving this. Only the early adopters ever download milestone builds and we're trying to be more agile to a larger audience by going twice as often. D On 13-07-02 4:17 PM, Igor Fedorenko ifedore...@sonatype.com wrote: What's the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Doug Schaefer
We're still debating what to do with the SR-2. The proposal was an early conservative one that was aimed to appease the community that doesn't want to live on the bleeding edge. Egit, you pretty much have to live on the bleeding edge since it's still pushing some basic features that everyone

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] 6 month release cycle

2013-07-02 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
It goes back to the primary goal behind simrel. The original goal was to synchronize the releases and aggregation was secondary. With some projects wishing to release more frequently and some projects slowing down, perhaps the primary focus should be on aggregation rather than synchronizing