Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Mickael Istria
On 09/05/2013 07:22 AM, Ed Willink wrote: Hi Nice idea, but isn't the extension point a perfect target for hostile attacks? In an extensible framework such as Eclipse, any additional plugin can contain malicious code. This proposed extension point is no more and no less dangerous than any

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
On 2013-09-05 1:22 AM, Ed Willink wrote: Hi Nice idea, but isn't the extension point a perfect target for hostile attacks? I am not a security expert, but I think active eclipse installation count report will be very low on your priority list if an attacker was able to penetrate your system

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
On 2013-09-05 4:00 AM, Markus Alexander Kuppe wrote: On 09/05/2013 02:14 AM, Igor Fedorenko wrote: * There will be workspace preference to enable the counting, it will be on by default. Does this mean that the plug-in collects statistics even if the user does not opt-in to send stats? No,

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Wayne Beaton
If the user initiates an install operation with full understanding that they are contacting an Eclipse Foundation server to download some artefact, then it is perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for them to expect that we're keeping track of the fact that that thing has

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Wayne Beaton
It sounds like p2 sending stats may need to change depending on the final form of the policy. As I recall, in our private exchange I just said "no" and that we'd have to wait until the policy was developed. There is a link to the work-in-progress policy on the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
On 2013-09-05 11:42 AM, Wayne Beaton wrote: If the user initiates an install operation with full understanding that they are contacting an Eclipse Foundation server to download some artefact, then it is perfectly reasonable (in my opinion) for them to expect that we're keeping track of the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
To be clear, I am proposing central place to provide opt-in/opt-out configuration for all heartbeat and other call home functionality at Platform level. We won't be able to enforce this automatically, but I assume that any plugin that wants/needs to do any call home would honour the Platform

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
If it's a few months, it'll be too late to make any changes for Luna, which will be very unfortunate. -- Regards, Igor On 2013-09-05 1:24 PM, Wayne Beaton wrote: This has legal and privacy implications, and may need a Board review as well. It will not be completed for at least weeks, if not a

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Oberhuber, Martin
Hi Igor, This sounds very interesting ! Several companies / plugins do this already with their own methods (I remember Max Andersen's EclipseCon talk about JBoss tools [1], Pydev and Subclipse also do it from what I remember). I really like the idea of providing common infrastructure under

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] proposal: active eclipse installation count service

2013-09-05 Thread Igor Fedorenko
Thank you for the feedback, Martin. Apparently we can't do this at eclipse.org presently. So I'll wait for the Board to make their decision before I spend any of my time of this. -- Regards, Igor On 2013-09-05 6:54 PM, Oberhuber, Martin wrote: Hi Igor, This sounds very interesting ! Several