Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-11-09 Thread Marcel Bruch
clipse.org/> code as well as third-party code. > > Thanks, > > - Konstantin > > > From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org > [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Marcel > Bruch > Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:49 AM >

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-11-09 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
Ok. Thanks for trying. Please remove Sapphire from the error reporting tool. The data that’s collected is not actionable. - Konstantin From: Marcel Bruch Sent: Monday, November 9, 2015 7:55 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-08-03 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Bruch Sent: Monday, August 03, 2015 2:49 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Am 31.07.2015 um 22:01 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-31 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
: Saturday, July 25, 2015 2:55 PM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Am 25.07.2015 um 15:32 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com: is opening and extending automated error reporting to non

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-31 Thread Marcel Bruch
project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Am 25.07.2015 um 15:32 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com: is opening and extending automated error reporting to non-eclipse.org plugins, e.g. to member companies, worth

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Marcel Bruch
Am 24.07.2015 um 19:55 schrieb Max Rydahl Andersen mande...@redhat.com: On 24 Jul 2015, at 17:27, Marcel Bruch wrote: I think those clients (which currently make ~28% of the error reports) should actually sign-up and subscribe to their error reports How do I subscribe to error reports

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Marcel Bruch
I'll try to summarize the discussion up to the current point. The error reporting currently collects errors logged by eclipse plugins, i.e., the plugin-id of the log message needs start with org.eclipse. Log messages logged by 3rd parties (e.g., oracle.tools) are ignored (some exceptions here,

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Marcel Bruch
Am 24.07.2015 um 21:07 schrieb Greg Amerson gregory.amer...@liferay.com: I think those clients (which currently make ~28% of the error reports) should actually sign-up and subscribe to their error reports Liferay would love to sign up, just point the way. Unfortunately, this is yet not

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Ed Willink
Bruch *Sent:* Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:08 AM *To:* Cross project issues *Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code I'll try to summarize the discussion up to the current point. The error reporting currently collects errors logged by eclipse plugins, i.e

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Gunnar Wagenknecht Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 7:33 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Am 25.07.2015 um 06:32 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Bruch Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2015 1:08 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code I'll try to summarize the discussion up to the current point. The error reporting currently

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Marcel Bruch
Am 25.07.2015 um 16:33 schrieb Gunnar Wagenknecht gun...@wagenknecht.org: Am 25.07.2015 um 06:32 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com: is opening and extending automated error reporting to non-eclipse.org plugins, e.g. to member companies, worth these

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Gunnar Wagenknecht
Am 25.07.2015 um 14:08 schrieb Marcel Bruch marcel.br...@codetrails.com: I’ve no strong opinion on that yet (and likely the EF and legal will have to final say). *My* current gut feeling is that it should be opt-in. Opt-outs, however, will be more effective to get a comprehensive view.

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Marcel Bruch
Am 25.07.2015 um 23:13 schrieb Gunnar Wagenknecht gun...@wagenknecht.org: Am 25.07.2015 um 14:08 schrieb Marcel Bruch marcel.br...@codetrails.com: I’ve no strong opinion on that yet (and likely the EF and legal will have to final say). *My* current gut feeling is that it should be

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-25 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code I'll try to summarize the discussion up to the current point. The error reporting currently collects errors logged by eclipse plugins, i.e., the plugin-id of the log message needs start with org.eclipse. Log

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Marcel Bruch
-Original Message- From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:12 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Marcel Bruch
Am 24.07.2015 um 17:36 schrieb Gunnar Wagenknecht gun...@wagenknecht.org: Am 24.07.2015 um 08:27 schrieb Marcel Bruch marcel.br...@codetrails.com: Most reports mentioning Sapphire are from the namespaces oracle.eclipse.tools.* and com.liferay.* Some reports show that Sapphire clients

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Gunnar Wagenknecht
Am 24.07.2015 um 08:27 schrieb Marcel Bruch marcel.br...@codetrails.com: Most reports mentioning Sapphire are from the namespaces oracle.eclipse.tools.* and com.liferay.* Some reports show that Sapphire clients even do not follow the bundle name to package name conventions. Neither

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Max Rydahl Andersen
On 24 Jul 2015, at 17:27, Marcel Bruch wrote: I think those clients (which currently make ~28% of the error reports) should actually sign-up and subscribe to their error reports How do I subscribe to error reports that are filtered ? - or set up their own error collection to review and fix

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Greg Amerson
-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcel Bruch *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 8:27 AM *To:* Cross project issues *Subject:* Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Konstantin, I dug a bit deeper into Sapphire error reports. My conclusion: Adding more

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-24 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Marcel Bruch Sent: Friday, July 24, 2015 8:27 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Konstantin, I dug a bit deeper into Sapphire error reports. My conclusion: Adding more open source

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-23 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 9:29 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Konstantin, Am 22.07.2015 um 13:01 schrieb Konstantin Komissarchik konstantin.komissarc...@oracle.com: Stack frames should not be considered sensitive just

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-23 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
A big +1 -Original Message- From: cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Max Rydahl Andersen Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2015 5:12 AM To: Cross project issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-23 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org [mailto:cross-project-issues-dev-boun...@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Ed Willink Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 9:28 PM To: cross-project-issues-dev@eclipse.org Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Hi IMHO, the 20% who

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-22 Thread Marcel Bruch
Konstantin, let me send this at the beginning: this discussion is greatly appreciated - although my personal answer might not be satisfying yet… Library projects like Sapphire or Nebula are somewhat special because they are (more or less) exclusively used by third-party plugins. Hence they do

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-22 Thread Marcel Bruch
My proposal:… Sounds okay to me. I wonder if the short cut „not to enable 3rd party class names in stack traces by default“ would be acceptable as well since it’s right on the configure dialog and easy to grasp (IMHO). Wayne, any thoughts on this? I can change the defaults (for SR1) if the

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-22 Thread Konstantin Komissarchik
issues Subject: Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code Konstantin, let me send this at the beginning: this discussion is greatly appreciated - although my personal answer might not be satisfying yet… Library projects like Sapphire or Nebula are somewhat special

Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Error reporter and third-party code

2015-07-22 Thread Ed Willink
Hi IMHO, the 20% who explicitly enabled message anonymization will also enable method anonymization because they are avoiding the problem of needing corporate approval of any release of data. A method name such as SHA4096 may reveal what algorithm is being exploited/developed. Too risky if