[cross-project-issues-dev] Visit count on a page on eclipse.org?

2018-02-12 Thread Leo Ufimtsev
Hello,

Do we have any sort of visit/hit count on eclipse.org?
If so, do contributors have access to it?

I'd like to know how many people visit this page on a daily/weekly/monthly
basis:
https://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/

Or I'd be happy with parent also:
https://www.eclipse.org/swt/

Thank you.

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] HTMLPrinter is Broken

2018-01-25 Thread Leo Ufimtsev
I haven't read the whole thread.

But I think it's fairly common sense that one should not use internal api
by an external project. It's just one of life's axioms.

It's like people who use reflection to get to private members of a java
class and deploy that code into production.
That's just a 'quick' workaround that generates unstable products.

I really cannot see any way to justify using internal api for use in a
stable product beyond testing / development / exploration / proof of
concept.

And by extension, internal api should be subject to change and removal at
any given time without prior notice.

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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] HTMLPrinter is Broken

2018-01-24 Thread Leo Ufimtsev
Hello Ed,

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 7:27 AM, Ed Merks <ed.me...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm a more than little annoyed to see that this method
>
> org.eclipse.jface.internal.text.html.HTMLPrinter.insertPageProlog(StringBuffer,
> int, RGB, RGB, String)
>
> I understand your frustration, we sometimes have to deal with similar
problems.
E.g when Gtk makes changes to their methods, it breaks SWT and causes
glitches in Eclipse.

But:

As the package suggests, it's an *internal* method: org.eclipse.jface.
*internal*.text.html.
'Internal' means it's not suppose to be used by public.

If you wish to use internal api because it's useful to you, then you should
first put in effort to make
the api public and *only then* use it. Not use it and then complain about
it's removal.

Because you chose to use internal api, and your suggestion to revert the
code removal, you are slowing down platform
development and by extension slowing down the whole Eclipse development
process.

It's very important for us to stay agile and move quickly, this involves
being able to refactor old code, remove redundant code etc..

As case in point, in Fedora, "yum" got dropped and replaced with 'dnf'
package manager
because "yum" had too much internal api being used by external users and
they couldn't refactor/stay agile.

My experience with HTMLPrinter is that it took me longer than necessary to
fix some color related issues
in platform because HTML printer was such a mess of multiple redundant
methods.
I'm actually very glad those methods were removed and I think they should
stay removed.

This is nothing personal. If we move too slowly, eclipse will die and we
will all loose :-(.

Moving forward, I suggest we help each other move fast and keep things
going quickly.
This involves not using internal api and try to make sure platform
development is fast and effective.

Thanks

has gone from deprecated to deleted in less than a 5 week period:
>
> https://github.com/eclipse/eclipse.platform.text/commits/mas
> ter/org.eclipse.jface.text/src/org/eclipse/jface/internal/
> text/html/HTMLPrinter.java
>
> JDT, EMF, Xtext, and Oomph all use this method.
>
> I really don't care to hear the arguments about it being internal because:
>
>1. I don't see that JDT ought to have exclusive special privileges to
>use internal things.
>2. I don't see any reason why it should be internal.
>3. And any client wanting to implement hovers that work like the ones
>for JDT, will have the same needs as JDT and will solve the problem the
>same way.
>
> I'd like to avoid dwelling on the fact that this is simply a pointless
> change, but I can't help it. Surely one wouldn't change this simply to
> improve performance in code that has no relevant performance impact!  It
> seems to me at best a misguided effort that would be better spent on real
> improvements.
>
> Please revert this change before M5.
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=530240
>
> And in the future, please consider that any internal API that is used by
> any other project is going to cause problems for many projects just as it
> did for JDT:
>
> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=529118
>
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Re: [cross-project-issues-dev] Eclipse Oxygen.2 video

2017-12-20 Thread Leo Ufimtsev
Thanks, great video.

I've also just watched the "Eclipse Oxygen" improvements. Very good video
on new features. I've tweeted about them. Keep it up!

On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Holger Voormann <ecli...@voormann.de>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As usual I created an Eclipse Oxygen.2 video that shows some IDE
> improvements in action:
>
> https://youtu.be/_EY1eeQtY_U
>
> - Java 9 related bug fixes and improvements
> - EGit 4.9 improvements (http://eclip.se/dl)
> - CDT 9.4 improvements (http://eclip.se/dm),  e. g. Docker container
> support to compile and launch C/C++ code
>
> Share and use the video to promote Eclipse Oxygen (the video can be
> embedded without additional attribution).
>
> Thanks to all of you who contribute in any way to Eclipse!
>
> Holger
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