On Sat, Feb 2, 2019 at 9:21 PM Ruben Safir <ru...@mrbrklyn.com> wrote: > > > I see great reasons to end web based forums.. > > > > Can you give some of these reasons? I'd love to hear them. > > They depend on a browser, they spy on you, they are not quick, they > don't integrate with my email client, I can't run them from a shell, > they are a security nightmare, they don't allow for smother > communications .... etc etc etc.
Let's not be too hasty here. After all, those are perfectly valid reasons, but they are only reasons why *you* choose not to use those communication methods, and not reasons to get rid of them entirely. To follow the same argument, I could say that we should end the IRC because "it depends on specialized client software, it doesn't let me smoothly integrate images and video into the chat, I can't run it from my phone, and it makes it very hard for non-savvy people to communicate." Remember, the systems that the CF community uses to communicate are there for the benefit of all community members, and it is up to the entire community to make reasonable accommodations so that we exclude as few people as possible. Just because some people do not wish to use a specific communication channel does not mean that the project should not endorse it. And so, the issue we are trying to address here is that there is a division between the members of the crossfire community. There are some that prefer and are very familiar with IRC, but have issues with using other methods of instant chat, and there are those that prefer more modern systems like Slack and Discord, but have issues with older chat systems like IRC. As it currently is, it does not entirely make sense to use IRC only, or to use Slack/Discord only, as we will be alienating people either way. That is why I am proposing that we have a way of bridging the two, so as to best serve both types of community users, and ensure the gap between "IRC people" and "non-IRC people" does not continue to widen. Of course, a bridge like this will almost certainly require some kind of sacrifice on both sides of the fence, the true question is whether the expanded accessibility is worth the additional sacrifice. More specifically, the two primary areas that would "sacrifice" are A) the IRC chat messages would be sent to a third party, and could be read by and responded to by members that are not on IRC, and B) the message history in the "other" chat system would most likely be limited, so users of that system would not be able to easily scrollback to their heart's content, as they are accustomed to. Thoughts? (P.S. Ruben, perhaps I should clarify that I'm not trying to attack your perspective, only point out that it's a personal choice, and I don't think it should be a guiding principle for the project) (That being said, I do hope that everyone on this list continues to respond with their own comments and opinions.) --DraugTheWhopper _______________________________________________ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
