Re: [crossfire] Map changes?
On 09/04/2019 23.00, Rick Tanner wrote: > Your change was accepted in to the trunk code base. > > Revision: 12354 > http://crossfire.svn.sourceforge.net/crossfire/?rev=12354=rev > Author: ryo_saeba > Date: 2010-01-18 22:54:00 + (Mon, 18 Jan 2010) > > Log Message: > --- > Apply patch 'Added exit lever to Devourer's temple lower level' courtesy > Otto J. Makela That URL gives me a 404, even though I'm logged in to Sourceforge. Should it be publicly available? But okay, I wasn't aware Metalforge was stuck in update hell. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Map changes?
Several years ago (details escape me, it was so long ago) I submitted a change to the map to prevent players getting stuck in the temple of Devourers cellar because nosy vampires always pull all the levers they can. Checking just today on Metalforge, it seems my change did not end up in the current release? Could someone give me a pointer on how and where I should resubmit? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] A funny thing happened on the way to the new maps
On 2016-04-02 19:50, Robert Brockway wrote: > Actually I've always liked the idea of having the potential for > monsters to fight each other. Just because they are against the > player doesn't mean skeletons and orcs should always get on. This of course already happens when you charm monsters (and some other magicks or skills, I believe?) to be your friends. In addition to mice, I could easily see pestilences of giant locusts or battalions of army ants. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela <o...@iki.fi> * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Game change proposals
How do you envision the in-game lockpicking skill to change these minigames? It really should, shouldn't it? Also, even now, for higher-level characters it is still quite often easier to bash in a door than to stop to pick them (as you gain lockpicking skill levels really slowly). Adding fairly lengthy games like this will in their case just end up meaning more bashed doors... -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Ice melting spell
One thing I've been thinking would be nice is a pyro spell for melting ice, a bit like there is a earth to dust spell. Messing around with flints (specially the humorous bit about mistakenly lighting the flint with itself, and burning it completely up) seems somewhat, er, medieval. Any takers, it would seem like this could be a reward item from some quest? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Keeping capitalization consistent in maps
On 2013-03-19 05:18, Kevin Zheng wrote: Proper nouns should be capitalized, but Arena Guard appears capitalized. On the other hand, ticket vendor is not capitalized. Where do we typically draw the line between a generic noun and a proper noun? There is also a long-standing problem that there are objects which are keys and objects which are Keys. Same with swords and some other categories. This of course comes up with the command line commands like drop. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Client GTK2 - Selection screen failure
On 26/12/12 23:25, Otto J. Makela wrote: The metaserver selector does come up, but it is blank. Can't get anywhere. Dunno what changed, but now it's working. Library upgrade on F17 installation? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Client GTK2 - Selection screen failure
On 05/09/12 07:07, Kevin Zheng wrote: If you're using 1.60.0, you probably want to upgrade to 1.70.0. The crazy developers made a bunch of changes since the last release, perhaps fixing (and adding) a few bugs along the way. Well, now I'm hosed with Fedora 17 and crossfire-client-1.70.0-1.fc17.x86_64 since crossfire-client-gtk2 fails to work: [ INFO ] (Client Version) GTK V2 Unix Client 1.70.0 (using gtk-v1.glade) Unable to access /usr/bin/cfsndserv sound server process (crossfire-client-gtk2:3188): Gtk-WARNING **: Attempting to add a widget with type GtkLabel to a GtkAlignment, but as a GtkBin subclass a GtkAlignment can only contain one widget at a time; it already contains a widget of type GtkVBox (crossfire-client-gtk2:3188): libglade-WARNING **: unknown child property `type' for container `GtkAlignment' (crossfire-client-gtk2:3188): Gtk-WARNING **: gtk_scrolled_window_add(): cannot add non scrollable widget use gtk_scrolled_window_add_with_viewport() instead [ INFO ] (gtk-v2::init_image_cache_data) Init Image Cache The metaserver selector does come up, but it is blank. Can't get anywhere. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Client GTK2 - Buffer overflow
On 2012-09-04 03:27, Karla Stenger wrote: I'm playing at crossfire.metalforge.net and the huge pile of rings I was refering to before is located at the Scorn Sale Shop, upstairs. If you look at the southern wall from left to right it is at the 4rth tile where you can stand. Exactly the same reason (huge pile of objects in Scorn Sale Shop) why I switched over to the GTK client V2, as the older X client crashed hard. However, I haven't experienced crashes with what I am currently using with RHEL6 and Fedora 15: crossfire-client-gtk2-1.60.0-1.x86_64 I just tried messing around with the large ring pile in the Scorn Sale Shop on Metalforge, no problem with crashes. However, the client window scroll function does get wonky when you have too many objects in carry: when you drop one of them, the scroll bar jumps to a random position. Makes ordered dropping very difficult. Also, dropping objects into containers on the ground works funny: when you move away from the container, it occasionally gets automatically closed and occasionally not. If not, spooky action at a distance can happen, objects you drop end up inside the container though you are not standing on it. Or you get a warning about the container not being able to contain that type of objects. Also also, the distance metric works somehow strangely with this client, as occasionally when you use identify type skills you will end up identifying objects which are farther than the 1+8 nearest squares. Eg. this seems to happen pretty often in Raffle, where there is a fence between you and the objects, but you still are able to identify items. Would someone who knows the code want to take a look at this weirdness? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Patch proposal: unidentified generic faces
On 2012-01-19 08:56, Mark Wedel wrote: The code relies on key-values containing identified properties (see common/item.c:object_give_identified_properties for more details). Is the way you see doing this is that the archetype contains the unidentified values? I'm just curious as to how the unidentified name/face is determined. I've been meaning to ask for an addition to the drop command (which already has provisions for all, cursed, unpaid and some similar group properties) to have identified and unidentified added to the possible groups lists. For symmetry, the take command should also have similar properties, I tried and it doesn't even seem to recognize all in current versions. And the online documentation (given with help drop, help pick etc) should be expanded to explain this. Maybe the identified/unidentified status should be given more thought, it seems a bit strange to have no need to identify jewels but that the jewelry skill is required specifically for gold nuggets? Currently there are a few things (gold nuggets, lock picks, bottles...) which will fetch more money in the store when identified, but for which neither the face nor seemingly the functionality change when id'd. Zathras: Yes, yes, Zathras is used to being beast of burden to other people's needs. Very sad life. Probably have very sad death, but at least there is symmetry. -- J. Michael Straczynski: Babylon5 -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, ICBM: N 60 10' E 24 55' */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Attributes/Stats
Mark Wedel wrote: The other thing to note is the relative unimportance of Cha here. For most characters, only real effect is on shop pricing, as a lot of characters probably do not use singing/oratory. Other than making some other skill use Cha as its key value, I'm not sure what can be done there - I'd almost be tempted to just drop Cha. This won't make a huge difference, but... I believe these days monsters are pretty much always either friendly or aggressive, there is no middle ground? How about having charisma affect how neutral monsters act towards you? How about the charm monsters and/or pacify spells, are they affected by this? PS. Now that I have your attention, could someone take a look at /pup_land/nurnberg/hq_training -- it seems there is something wrong with normally aggressive monsters, they seem to be asleep or something, making parts of these training levels surprisingly easy. Is this intentional? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] new character creation
Mark Wedel wrote: This new method puts the creation in-client. This has several advantages - better interface for the end user, removes a lot of code from the server, and also moves some of the current character information from maps into archetypes. I see an opening here for special character creator client software, which keeps re-rolling the character to maximize stats and optimize point allocation, thus consistently always creating the best possible characters. Would this be a problem? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Gnome tweaking
The subject sounds like something you could end up in jail for in many states. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] skill window
Kevin Bulgrien wrote: There seems little point to argue when the agenda is so destructive. ...misunderstandings and neglect create more confusion in this world than trickery and malice. At any rate, the last two are certainly much less frequent. -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (1749-1832): The Sorrows of Young Werther, 1774 -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Auto ID on examine
Brendan Lally wrote: This changes the way the examine command (triggered by left clicking on an object) works so that if the object is unidentified, and the player has the appropriate skill, then an attempt to identify the object is automatically made. The intention is that this should make the ID process much smoother for new players, and less likely to be discovered after wasting money on ID tables or selling items that were useful. This does change the overall game balance a bit (making it easier to use skills automatically), but all-in-all I think it is a good change. What I would like to also see is having a class identified (similar in function to cursed and magic) in the inventory, so that you could more easily manipulate items which you have identified. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] TODO list
Mark Wedel wrote: Alex Schultz wrote: Expand cooking to allow players to salt the meats and such? Perhaps make weight-reduction-enchanted containers have some kind of partial preservative magic? That would help trolls :) That could work. It may just be that for even normal characters, food consumption can be fairly high - reducing it by half across the board may not be a bad thing. I was just earlier today thinking that the woodsman skill is in addition to the fast moving in wooded terrain ability (does anyone actually use this?) an identification skill -- what if it also included the ability to cure and preserve meats so they don't spoil as fast? What about a skill to butcher corpses down into more stable food items, or is that just too gory? Or do we want to make all this a part of cooking? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] use_skill change proposal
Nicolas Weeger wrote: Proposed change for 'use_skill' behaviour for alchemy-like skills: - remove the item identification part; use_skill only attempts alchemy (or equivalent) - add a new 'identify' command, that will identify based on (alchemy-like) skills the player knows Using that word would probably cause no end of confusion, as there are already numerous magicks (both object-based and skill-based) called identify. How about using an somewhat obscure word for it, like determinate? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Dragons, throwing skill and limitations
If a dragon acquires a throwing skill, the items they end up throwing at their enemies from their inventory are random, as they cannot wield the items they want to be thrown. This does not really make much sense, the fact that one does not have the anatomy for swords etc. doesn't mean one can't select what items to throw at enemies? PS. If dragons don't have hands (the logic behind no swords, I think), where do they wear their rings? And why do dragon monsters often leave swords when you kill them? PPS. How about a ring/amulet of extra ring fingers (and if cursed, remove ability to use two rings), or would that affect game balance too much? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Added exit lever to Devourer's temple lower level
I submitted as patch 2934041 to sourceforge the micro-change to add an exit lever to the alcove in the Devourer's temple lower level. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Conventions for exits in town
Nicolas Weeger wrote: To have some coherence in maps in town, I'd like to suggest the following rules for exits: - in the world map, you need to apply an exit to enter the map - in a town map, exit is applied automatically when you step on it Does that sound ok? I'd say this depends on how the town sub-map you are exiting is built, either including the house surroundings or just an interior view. If there is a door icon, you would obviously want it to work only when applied, but if there is an whirlwind exit (or an hidden exit, for example under pavement) you wouldn't want to need to apply it. If you want to be consistent, you need to edit lots of town views, creating surroundings for each house to be able to use the hidden exit strategy. Which reminds me, who remembers far back to when you were a beginner? Did you find it confusing in the world map the way some of the 2×2 houses have a roof area you cannot walk over, even though some of the larger buildings like keeps and temples do not have this limitation? I also found it a bit confusing that there are statues and lampposts which do block your way and identical-looking ones which do not do that. PS. Easiest solution to create an panic exit for the Devourers underground is just to hide it under a generator, that way the vampires won't activate it. I didn't realize vampires will by default also dig through weak walls :-/ Now, where does one submit map updates? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] NPC respawning
Mark Wedel wrote: One could even see the tavern closing down (people can not enter it), which would force a reset sooner. Could be said that new workers need to be found, damage repaired, etc. I assume this would apply also to stores where the merchant is represented by a NPC inside the store (for example in Pupland)? Sounds like it could be a possibility for players to get stuck inside closed locations without normal players being able to help them from the outside. Tread carefully unless we are sure none contain structures (like door mechanisms which can only be opened from one side or that require payment or special items) where one can get stuck. Maybe players could be ejected from the area when this happens, but this is again a bit risky as some special stores have monsters etc. around them? Apropos, have we been thinking of general solutions to situations like this, even spells like word of recall (which not all players have) can be unusable in no spells areas? For example, I've once become stuck inside the Devourers' temple cellar, when I mistakenly re-flipped the door opening lever and ran through the closing door into the vampire hideout. Yes, I can see how having a lever also on the inside would mean the curious vampires would sooner than later use it, but it was a bit of a bummer being stuck in there with vampires on the outside (so I could not just create a new character to open the door), and nobody else on the game to give me a hand... -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] What to find in towns, what to find in the countryside
Nicolas Weeger wrote: Well, Scorn also has an explanation on why neglected houses have monsters in them: the situation with Old Town. Talking about that quest, would anyone have a description? That is what items one can find, clues there are, and so on? :) Sorry, my mistake, Old City. I played it through for the most part last night (kinda hard to tell, as it is a quite large adventure). Different clues are spread around the city, but the general idea is that you have to make your way through the monster- infested under-city areas, find three artifacts (crown, cup and dagger), bring them to the old underground temple where they will open a route to the underworld, where you can block the hell-hole through which the monsters infesting the Old City have been coming through. I don't think there actually are items to be gained on this one, as the three artifacts are destroyed in the process. General treasure abounds, though. Suitable for adventurers level 20+, I'd say. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] What to find in towns, what to find in the countryside
On 2009-11-28 21:10, Nicolas Weeger wrote: Certainly for scorn, as that is a starting area, it makes a lot of sense. And a lot of the monster maps in scorn don't make a lot of sense. For navar city, there are several quest lines that sort of go with some of the maps in the town (old wizards tower, smuggling operation, etc). But those are also better in that for the most part, there is some sequence so you just can't wander into a random house full of monsters. I'd remove all monsters from town, or at least hide them. Or make them non aggressive, and they start attacking if player attacks. Or else we'll need to explain why the town guards are that incompetent! :) Well, Scorn also has an explanation on why neglected houses have monsters in them: the situation with Old Town. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] How to integrate old stories in the game?
Nicolas Weeger wrote: I'd rather see real maps. The random map generator (which I did) was mostly supposed to compensate a lack of maps. If people do make maps for all houses, then the plugin isn't useful anymore :) Obviously real maps would be the best solution. However, I think the random map generator does a fair job, specially on the multi-level dungeons; IMHO the different Scorn quest maps turn out nice and exciting. The fact that it does as reasonable a job as it does means that it might be worth putting a bit of effort into enhancing it... -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] How to integrate old stories in the game?
Mark Wedel wrote: There is the lib/messages file, which will be used for random readables that show up in dungeons. However, the current instance of readables (nonmagical scrolls, books, etc) is pretty low. And even if one is generated, it could contain info about alchemy, monsters, spells, etc. And it can also have a high literacy rate requirement. A segue to something that has bothered me a bit: there are no longer any closed houses in Scorn, having been replaced with randomly generated ones. However, there is not much point in visiting them, as they are only single- level places with the randomly-generated paraphernalia. If you are very lucky, there might be a treasure room or some such, but otherwise they are fairly pointless: no monsters on the first level, nothing to do, nothing to see... How about someone working a bit on the generator, for example have the ubiquitous bookshelves actually occasionally contain something useful? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Linux and Python code crashes
James Lopeman wrote: This issue is well know on fedora (32 and i think 64 ).. the fix is already in SVN, no server release since Great to hear this. Is the fix expected to be pushed into updates? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Linux and Python code crashes
Rick Tanner wrote: What distro and version are you using and encountering this on? Banks, message board, mail system worked for me using crossfire-server version 1.11.0-2, python2.5 (version 2.5.4-1ubuntu4) and python2.5-minimal (version 2.5.4-1ubuntu4) Those python packages were installed as dependencies of crossfire-server. % cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 10 (Cambridge) % uname -a Linux tigger.otto.net 2.6.27.21-170.2.56.fc10.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Mar 23 23:08:10 EDT 2009 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux % rpm -qa crossfire\* python\* | sort crossfire-1.11.0-1.fc10.x86_64 crossfire-client-1.11.0-1.fc10.x86_64 crossfire-client-images-1.11.0-1.fc10.x86_64 crossfire-doc-1.11.0-1.fc10.x86_64 crossfire-maps-1.11.0-1.fc10.noarch crossfire-plugins-1.11.0-1.fc10.x86_64 python-2.5.2-1.fc10.x86_64 python-crypto-2.0.1-14.fc10.x86_64 python-debuginfo-2.5.2-1.fc10.x86_64 python-imaging-1.1.6-12.fc10.x86_64 python-iniparse-0.2.4-1.fc10.noarch python-libs-2.5.2-1.fc10.x86_64 python-numeric-24.2-11.fc9.x86_64 python-paste-1.7.1-1.fc10.noarch python-reportlab-2.1-2.fc9.noarch python-setuptools-0.6c9-1.fc10.noarch python-slip-0.1.15-1.fc10.noarch python-slip-dbus-0.1.15-1.fc10.noarch python-slip-gtk-0.1.15-1.fc10.noarch python-sqlite2-2.3.3-3.fc9.x86_64 python-urlgrabber-3.0.0-10.fc10.noarch If I remember earlier discussions correctly, this problem has been around for quite some time? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Linux and Python code crashes
As noted earlier on this mailing list, the Linux distribution crossfire-1.11.0-1 server crashes hard minutes after items using Python code (like banks, mail system etc) get loaded. Is anyone working on this? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Treasures
Rick Tanner l...@real-time.com wrote: While in DM mode, check and see what material those items are made of. You'll likely find that some are material: granite or something along those lines. AFAIK, this is what keeps the items from merging. I took a look at some random level diamonds in a saved apartment file: material, value, weight and all that other stuff was the same. I found that they differed from normal diamonds only in having the flag move_block swim set, where normal ones had the flag state 1 set. Anyone remember offhand what these flags mean when applied to objects? As someone else noted, restarting the server ended up in merging quite a lot of these random level objects with the normal ones, like several other types of gems. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
[crossfire] Crash on Skud bank coin exchange
I'm running the ready-rpm-packaged crossfire-1.11.0-1.fc10 (with crossfire-maps and crossfire-plugins of the same version) on a Fedora10 x86_64 system. A problem that did not occurr in the crossfire-1.11.0-1.fc9 release is that the server process suddenly crashes if one exchanges coins at the bank at Skud (other banks don't seem to do it). Nothing very useful seems to end up being written into the logs. Anyone else see anything like this, and how should I try to debug where things go wrong? -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
Re: [crossfire] Crash on Skud bank coin exchange
James Lopeman mef...@meflin.net wrote: On fedora 9 10 32 64 bit crossfire servers crash in scorn after a few minuets, When trying to test your money exchange bug standing around in the bank caused a crash after 1-2 minuets . ( bug report 2008-12-23 ) http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=2459929group_id=13833atid=113833 Hadn't thought to try this. Yes, just having the bank map load crashes the server after a couple of minutes. As I said, the log file doesn't contain useful stuff: 09/01/15 21:10:26 [Debug] Trying to load map /usr/share/crossfire/maps/world/world_104_115. 09/01/15 21:10:26 [Debug] load_original_map: /world/world_104_115 (0) 09/01/15 21:10:29 [Debug] Trying to load map /usr/share/crossfire/maps/scorn/shops/bank. 09/01/15 21:10:29 [Debug] load_original_map: /scorn/shops/bank (0) 09/01/15 21:10:33 [Debug] Saving map /world/world_104_115 09/01/15 21:11:15 [Debug] make_path_tofile /var/games/crossfire/players/ExTechOp/_scorn_apartment_Apartments1...09/01/15 21:11:15 [Debug] 09/01/15 21:11:15 [Debug] Saving map /var/games/crossfire/players/ExTechOp/_scorn_apartment_Apartments1 09/01/15 21:11:17 [Debug] Resetting map /var/games/crossfire/players/ExTechOp/_scorn_apartment_Apartments1. -- /* * * Otto J. Makela o...@iki.fi * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * */ /* Phone: +358 40 765 5772, FAX: +358 42 7655772, ICBM: 60N 25E */ /* Mail: Mechelininkatu 26 B 27, FI-00100 Helsinki, FINLAND */ /* * * Computers Rule 0100 01001011 * * * * * * * * * * * * */ ___ crossfire mailing list crossfire@metalforge.org http://mailman.metalforge.org/mailman/listinfo/crossfire
