Re: US antispam bill still isn't death to anonymity

2003-11-24 Thread John R. Levine
[Moderator's note: I'm allowing through this one last message, but we've really, really gotten off topic here. --Perry] >> No, it only makes it illegal to use false or misleading information to >> send commercial e-mail. That's a rather important distinction. > >So, I get non-commercial emails a

ADMIN: end of the UCE discussion

2003-11-24 Thread Perry E . Metzger
I allowed through a couple of messages on UCE from The Usual Suspects, partially because they discussed things like anonymous remailers etc., but unless something very interesting comes through I'd like to end this here, given that we're not really the right list for the discussion. Perry --

Re: US antispam bill is death to anonymity

2003-11-24 Thread Dan Geer
The natural consequence of zero-cost ("free") speech is to make freedom from speech (privacy) unquenchably attractive. If you would preserve anonymity, you must raise the costs of those who will not shut up. We technocrats have had years to do something and we have not; the ball is now in othe

Re: US antispam bill is death to anonymity

2003-11-24 Thread John Gilmore
> No, it only makes it illegal to use false or misleading information to > send commercial e-mail. That's a rather important distinction. So, I get non-commercial emails all the time, from topica mailing lists and from people forwarding New York Times articles and such. They come with embedded ad