On Thu, Dec 08, 2005 at 05:10:20PM -0800, Ed Gerck wrote:
PGP is public-key email without PKI.
This is true for use in geodesic networks, but not true for
inter-organization email, one ends up introducing gateway systems, that
create an ad-hoc PKI of gateways that have exchanged keys and users
Ed Gerck wrote:
I believe that's what I wrote above. This rather old point (known to the
X.509 authors, as one can read in their documents) is why X.509 simplifies
what it provides to the least possible _to_automate_ and puts all the local
and
human-based security decisions in the CPS.
Ed Gerck wrote:
PGP is public-key email without PKI. So is IBE. And yet neither of
them has
all the identical, same basic components that PKI also needs. Now, when you
look at the paper on email security at
http://email-security.net/papers/pki-pgp-ibe.htm
you see that the issue of what
James A. Donald wrote:
However, the main point of attack is phishing, when an
outsider attempts to interpose himself, the man in the
middle, into an existing relationship between two people
that know and trust each other.
in the public key model ... whether it involves pgp, pki, digital
Anne Lynn Wheeler wrote:
usually when you are doing baseline ... you start with the simplest,
evaluate that and then incrementally add complexity.
I think that's where PKI got it wrong in several parts and not
just the CPS. It started with the simplest (because it was meant to
work for a
At 09:40 AM 12/8/2005, Aram Perez wrote:
On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:24 PM, James A. Donald wrote:
Software is cheaper than boats - the poorest man can
afford the strongest encryption, but he cannot afford
the strongest boat.
If it is that cheap, then why are we having this discussion? Why
isn't
http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0509136
Totally Secure Classical Communication Utilizing Johnson (-like) Noise
and Kirchoff's Law
Authors: Laszlo B. Kish
Comments: 14 pages; Google search terms: +totally +secure +communication
Subj-class: General Physics
Journal-ref: Manuscript featured by Science,
Same story, different malleable substance...
Cheers,
RAH
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