Re: report on security risks of applying CALEA to VoIP

2006-06-14 Thread pat hache
just received from IP cheers From: Susan Landau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: June 13, 2006 10:35:37 AM EDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: report on security risks of applying CALEA to VoIP Tuesday 13 June 2006 at 10:35 Below you'll find an executive summary of

RE: Chinese WAPI protocol?

2006-06-14 Thread Eastlake III Donald-LDE008
OK, after various queries I figured out that the page has moved and I was being screwed up by cached data or something. The correct URL for the 802.11 time lines web page is http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm Sorry, Donald -Original Message- From:

Re: Chinese WAPI protocol?

2006-06-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
David Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The specification is secret and confidential. It uses the SMS4 block cipher, which is secret and patented. [*] Secret and patented are mutually exclusive. -- Ben Pfaff email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://benpfaff.org

Re: Chinese WAPI protocol?

2006-06-14 Thread Mike Owen
On 6/14/06, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The specification is secret and confidential. It uses the SMS4 block cipher, which is secret and patented. [*] Secret and patented are mutually exclusive. -- Ben Pfaff For the uspto, yes. For sipo, not

Re: Chinese WAPI protocol?

2006-06-14 Thread leichter_jerrold
| The specification is secret and confidential. It uses the SMS4 | block cipher, which is secret and patented. [*] | | Secret and patented are mutually exclusive. Actually, they are not. There is a special provision in the law under which something submitted to the patent office can be

Re: Chinese WAPI protocol?

2006-06-14 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 12:33:46 -0700, Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Wagner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The specification is secret and confidential. It uses the SMS4 block cipher, which is secret and patented. [*] Secret and patented are mutually exclusive. Perhaps not. The