Re: flavors of reptile lubricant, was Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread wangude
The below USB drive manufacture claims FIPS 140-2 certification. Encryption is now required for USB thumb drives used on DoD computer. This one is being used by the Military. http://www.kanguru.com/kanguruusbflash.html Thomas On 9/13/07, Ali, Saqib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 13 Sep 2007

RE: flavors of reptile lubricant, was Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Charles Jackson
Well, I don't want to start a flame war (drop me a note offline if I'm coming across as doing so), but I do want to respond to one point. Ali Saqib wrote: > I don't like the "Military Grade AES Encryption" phrase that IronDrive > uses on their website, cause that implies they know what Military

Re: flavors of reptile lubricant, was Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Aram Perez
Hi Folks, My last comment on this. I've stated my own personal opinion and anyone is free to disagree. On Sep 13, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Ali, Saqib wrote: On 13 Sep 2007 13:45:42 -, John Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I always understood snake oil crypto to refer to products that were o

Re: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Hagai Bar-El
Hi, On 13/09/07 15:14, Ian G wrote: > Hagai Bar-El wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On 12/09/07 08:56, Aram Perez wrote: >>> The IronKey appears to provide decent security while it is NOT plugged >>> into a PC. But as soon as you plug it in and you have to enter a >>> password to unlock it, the security level

Re: flavors of reptile lubricant, was Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Ali, Saqib
On 13 Sep 2007 13:45:42 -, John Levine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I always understood snake oil crypto to refer to products that were of > no value to anyone, e.g., products that claim to have secret > unbreakable encryption, million bit keys, or "one time pads" produced > by PRNGs. hear hea

Re: flavors of reptile lubricant, was Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread John Levine
I always understood snake oil crypto to refer to products that were of no value to anyone, e.g., products that claim to have secret unbreakable encryption, million bit keys, or "one time pads" produced by PRNGs. What we have here is something else, a product that is reasonable for one kind of thre

RE: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Charles Jackson
I looked at the Ironkey website and, although there is obviously a little marketing-speak, my snake-oil and BS detectors do not go off. Some of the criticisms by Aram Perez appear to be somewhat unjustified. Perez states: "Protected by a password that is entered on whatever PC you plug the Ir

Re: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Damien Miller wrote: > It protects against the common threat model of lost/stolen USB keys. Why is > this snake oil? Your criticism seems akin to calling a physical lock insecure > because it doesn't protect you from burglars once you have unlocked it. Many many years ago an office that a startup

Experimental demonstration of Shor’s algorithm with quantum entanglement

2007-09-13 Thread Dustin D. Trammell
Also from the NewScientist article that I just posted, another paper from completely different researchers arriving at the same result: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0705.1398 -- Dustin D. Trammell Product Security Analyst TippingPoint, a division of 3Com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Demonstration of Shor’s quantum factoring algorithm using photonic qubits

2007-09-13 Thread Dustin D. Trammell
NewScientist's write-up (subscription required for full article): http://technology.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg19526216.700 You can find the full paper here: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0705.1684 -- Dustin D. Trammell Product Security Analyst TippingPoint, a division of 3Com signature.asc Des

RE: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Dave Korn
On 13 September 2007 04:18, Aram Perez wrote: > "to circumvent keylogging spyware" - More on this later... > "The first time you plug it in, you initialize it with a password" - > Oh, wait until I disable my keylogging spyware. > "You enter that password to unlock your secure fi

Re: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Ian G
Hagai Bar-El wrote: Hi, On 12/09/07 08:56, Aram Perez wrote: The IronKey appears to provide decent security while it is NOT plugged into a PC. But as soon as you plug it in and you have to enter a password to unlock it, the security level quickly drops. This would be the case even if they suppo

Re: Another Snake Oil Candidate

2007-09-13 Thread Aram Perez
Hi Jerry, I accidently sent this response in HTML last night which was bounced. So here it is again. On Sep 11, 2007, at 2:18 PM, Leichter, Jerry wrote: | The world's most secure USB Flash Drive: . What makes you call it snake oil? At least the URL you point