Re: once more, with feeling.

2008-09-09 Thread Cat Okita
On Mon, 8 Sep 2008, Adam Shostack wrote: What makes now the perfect time to address an issue which has been present for quite soem time? I'd turn that question around, and ask what makes now such a bad time to address an issue that's been present (and not addressed) for quite some time... ?

Re: once more, with feeling.

2008-09-09 Thread Peter Gutmann
Darren J Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I believe the only way both of these highly dubious deployment practices will be stamped out is when the browsers stop allowing users to see such web pages. Unfortunately I think the only way it (and a pile of other things as well) may get stamped out

US firms donate $100,000 to help save Bletchley Park

2008-09-09 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Excerpt: The Americans have joined the campaign to save Bletchley Park, the home of code breaking during the Second World War, as well as of Britain's computing heritage, with IBM and computer security specialist PGP already pledging 57,000 pounds (about $100,000) to secure the

Re: once more, with feeling.

2008-09-09 Thread dan
Peter Gutmann writes, in part: -+ | ... - the rate-limiting step is the fact that | the crooks simply can't use all the stolen identities | they have, not any security measures that may be present. | ... To my knowledge, you are correct. It seems that the price

Let's be paranoid about CSS (cascaded style sheet) as an application data integrity attack vector!

2008-09-09 Thread Thierry Moreau
Dear security experts: Suppose I want to use the HTML syntax and a plain web browser as a user interface for a secure application. By secure, I mean, among other things, that the application service provider is confident that the user sees the HTML contents without integrity vulnerabilities.

Re: More US bank silliness

2008-09-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Peter Gutmann: On a semi-related topic, it'd be interesting to get some discussion about FF3 removing the FF2 SSL indicators of the padlock and (more visibly) the background colour-change for the URL bar when SSL is active and replacing it with a spoof-friendly indicator that's part of

Bletchley Park restoration

2008-09-09 Thread Jerrold Leichter
[Moderator's note: I posted on this earlier, but I really do want to see Bletchley Park maintained... :) --Perry] IBM and PGP have donated $100,000 to help restore and maintain Bletchley Park as a museum. This money is intended to get others involved - millions more will be needed.

Re: once more, with feeling.

2008-09-09 Thread James A. Donald
Peter Gutmann wrote: Unfortunately I think the only way it (and a pile of other things as well) may get stamped out is through a multi-pronged approach that includes legislation, and specifically properly thought-out requirements rather than big-business- bought legislation like UCITA/UCC or

Re: Let's be paranoid about CSS (cascaded style sheet) as an application data integrity attack vector!

2008-09-09 Thread nico
On Tue, Sep 09, 2008 at 01:52:30PM -0500, Thierry Moreau wrote: Here is a simple exploit which alters the ietf.org main page. Insert the following four lines [...] to the file /usr/lib/firefox/res/html.css [...] OK, this requires root access because the Linux community is generally