Re: Crypto Craft Knowledge

2009-02-16 Thread David Molnar
Ben Laurie wrote: [snip discussion of bad crypto implementation practices] Because he is steeped in the craft knowledge around crypto. But most developers aren't. Most developers don't even have the right mindset for secure coding, let alone correct cryptographic coding. So, why on Earth do

Re: Property RIghts in Keys

2009-02-16 Thread Peter Gutmann
[Moderator's note: my forwarding this is not an indication that I want to continue the are certs IP discussion. --Perry] Perry E. Metzger pe...@piermont.com writes: However, a cert seems almost certainly *not* to be IP. [...] 3) It can't be copyrighted, it contains no creativity. You

how to properly secure non-ssl logins (php + ajax)

2009-02-16 Thread Rene Veerman
Hi. Recently, on both the jQuery(.com) and PHP mailinglists, a question has arisen on how to properly secure a login form for a non-ssl web-application. But the replies have been get ssl.. :( I disagree, and think that with a proper layout of authentication architecture, one can really