[Cryptography] Sabotaged hardware (was Re: Opening Discussion: Speculation on BULLRUN)

2013-09-06 Thread Perry E. Metzger
On Thu, 5 Sep 2013 22:31:50 -0400 Jerry Leichter leich...@lrw.com wrote: For example, at http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/09/05/us/documents-reveal-nsa-campaign-against-encryption.html?ref=uspagewanted=all, the following goal appears for FY 2013 appears: Complete enabling for

Re: [Cryptography] Sabotaged hardware (was Re: Opening Discussion: Speculation on BULLRUN)

2013-09-06 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Sep 6, 2013, at 11:37 AM, John Ioannidis wrote: I'm a lot more worried about FDE (full disk encryption) features on modern disk drives, for all the obvious reasons. If you're talking about the FDE features built into disk drives - I don't know anyone who seriously trusts it. Every secure