[Cryptography] please dont weaken pre-image resistance of SHA3 (Re: NIST about to weaken SHA3?)

2013-10-14 Thread Adam Back
On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:47:56PM -0400, John Kelsey wrote: The actual technical question is whether an across the board 128 bit security level is sufficient for a hash function with a 256 bit output. This weakens the proposed SHA3-256 relative to SHA256 in preimage resistance, where SHA256

Re: [Cryptography] please dont weaken pre-image resistance of SHA3 (Re: NIST about to weaken SHA3?)

2013-10-14 Thread John Kelsey
Adam, I guess I should preface this by saying I am speaking only for myself. That's always true here--it's why I'm using my personal email address. But in particular, right now, I'm not *allowed* to work. But just speaking my own personal take on things We go pretty *overwhelming*

Re: [Cryptography] please dont weaken pre-image resistance of SHA3 (Re: NIST about to weaken SHA3?)

2013-10-14 Thread ianG
On 14/10/13 17:51 PM, Adam Back wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 12:47:56PM -0400, John Kelsey wrote: The actual technical question is whether an across the board 128 bit security level is sufficient for a hash function with a 256 bit output. This weakens the proposed SHA3-256 relative to SHA256