Re: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
oh, and this is old discussion of a unit that has been in use in europe ... it basically is very inexpensive calculator with 7816 contacts that you can slip a smartcard into. it is used in a challenge/response scenario, a numeric keypad is used to enter the challenge, which is passed to the smar

Re: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-06 Thread Joerg Schneider
Mads Rasmussen wrote: Here in Brazil it's common to ask for a new pin for every transaction Same here in Germany. The banks send you paper lists with TANs (transaction numbers, e.g. 100 per list), which you to enter in addition to your PIN. For each transaction you need a new TAN. Unfortunately

Re: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-06 Thread Anne & Lynn Wheeler
Bill Stewart wrote: Yup. It's the little keychain frob that gives you a string of numbers, updated every 30 seconds or so, which stays roughly in sync with a server, so you can use them as one-time passwords instead of storing a password that's good for a long term. So if the phisher cons you into

Re: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-05 Thread Mads Rasmussen
Bill Stewart wrote: That's still a serious risk for a bank, since the scammer can use it to log in to the web site and then do a bunch of transactions quickly; it's less vulnerable if the bank insists on a new SecurID hit for every dangerous transaction, but that's too annoying for most customers.

Re: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-05 Thread Janusz A. Urbanowicz
On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 03:24:56PM -0500, Trei, Peter wrote: > R.A. Hettinga wrote: > > > Okay. So AOL and Banks are *selling* RSA keys??? > > Could someone explain this to me? > > No. Really. I'm serious... > > > > Cheers, > > RAH > > > > The slashdot article title is really, really mi

RE: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-05 Thread Bill Stewart
R.A. Hettinga wrote: > Okay. So AOL and Banks are *selling* RSA keys??? > Could someone explain this to me? At 12:24 PM 1/4/2005, Trei, Peter wrote: The slashdot article title is really, really misleading. In both cases, this is SecurID. Yup. It's the little keychain frob that gives you a string

RE: Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-04 Thread Trei, Peter
R.A. Hettinga wrote: > Okay. So AOL and Banks are *selling* RSA keys??? > Could someone explain this to me? > No. Really. I'm serious... > > Cheers, > RAH > The slashdot article title is really, really misleading. In both cases, this is SecurID. Peter -

Banks Test ID Device for Online Security

2005-01-04 Thread R.A. Hettinga
Okay. So AOL and Banks are *selling* RSA keys??? Could someone explain this to me? No. Really. I'm serious... Cheers, RAH <http://www.nytimes.com/2004/12/24/technology/24online.html?oref=login&pagewanted=print&position=> The New York Times December 24, 2004 B