Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-23 Thread Dan Geer
One approach to securing infrequent signing or working keys from a corporate master certificate is to store the certificate in a bank safe deposit box. The certificate generation software (say on a self booting CD or perhaps an entire laptop) could be stored in the safe dep

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-22 Thread Arnold G. Reinhold
One approach to securing infrequent signing or working keys from a corporate master certificate is to store the certificate in a bank safe deposit box. The certificate generation software (say on a self booting CD or perhaps an entire laptop) could be stored in the safe deposit box as well. The

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-15 Thread Anton Stiglic
> Some folks here might be interested in >http://webservices.xml.com/pub/a/ws/2003/12/09/salz.html > which walks through a secure, auditable root keygen and signing ceremony. We had something similar going on at Zeroknowlege Systems for the PKI of the Freedom servers. But the password that pr

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-15 Thread Dave Howe
Peter Gutmann wrote: > "Dave Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Key management and auditing is pretty much external to the actual >> software regardless of which solution you use I would have thought. > > Not necessarily. I looked at this in an ACSAC'2000 paper (available > from http://www.acsac

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-15 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Dave Howe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Key management and auditing is pretty much external to the actual software >regardless of which solution you use I would have thought. Not necessarily. I looked at this in an ACSAC'2000 paper (available from http://www.acsac.org/2000/abstracts/18.html).

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-15 Thread Rich Salz
> *shrug* it doesn't retroactively enforce the safety net - but that's ok, > most MS products don't either :) The whole point is to enhance common practice, not stay at the lowest common denominator. > Key management and auditing is pretty much external to the actual software > regardless of whic

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-14 Thread Dave Howe
Rich Salz wrote: >> These days there is a very nice oss/free gui tool which makes the >> whole process a whole lot easier - check out: >> http://sourceforge.net/projects/xca > It's nice to have a GUI, but seeing phrases like >For building the chains the CA flag is disregarded ... > doesn't make

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-14 Thread Rich Salz
> These days there is a very nice oss/free gui tool which makes the whole > process a whole lot easier - check out: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/xca It's nice to have a GUI, but seeing phrases like For building the chains the CA flag is disregarded ... doesn't make me feel very comfortable

Re: PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-14 Thread Dave Howe
Rich Salz wrote: > Some folks here might be interested in >http://webservices.xml.com/pub/a/ws/2003/12/09/salz.html > which walks through a secure, auditable root keygen and signing > ceremony. The context is using OpenSSL to build a PKI so that we can > write an XKMS server, building up to sec

PKI root signing ceremony, etc.

2003-12-14 Thread Rich Salz
Some folks here might be interested in http://webservices.xml.com/pub/a/ws/2003/12/09/salz.html which walks through a secure, auditable root keygen and signing ceremony. The context is using OpenSSL to build a PKI so that we can write an XKMS server, building up to secure Web Services messages u