Re: compressing randomly-generated numbers

2006-08-30 Thread Alexander Klimov
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Travis H. wrote: On 8/23/06, Alexander Klimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A random bit stream should have two properties: no bias and no dependency between bits. If one has biased but independent bits he can use the von Neumann algorithm to remove the bias, but if there is

Re: compressing randomly-generated numbers

2006-08-30 Thread Travis H.
On 8/29/06, Alexander Klimov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, it not really a claim since there was no definition, here it is: A ``dependency stripping'' algorithm is a deterministic algorithm that gets a stream of unbiased (but not necessary independent bits) and produces a stream of several

Re: compressing randomly-generated numbers

2006-08-11 Thread james hughes
On Aug 9, 2006, at 8:44 PM, Travis H. wrote: Hey, I was mulling over some old emails about randomly-generated numbers and realized that if I had an imperfectly random source (something less than 100% unpredictable), that compressing the output would compress it to the point where it was

RE: compressing randomly-generated numbers

2006-08-11 Thread Jeremy Hansen
I was mulling over some old emails about randomly-generated numbers and realized that if I had an imperfectly random source (something less than 100% unpredictable), that compressing the output would compress it to the point where it was nearly so. Would there be any reason to choose one

Re: compressing randomly-generated numbers

2006-08-11 Thread Damien Miller
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Travis H. wrote: Hey, I was mulling over some old emails about randomly-generated numbers and realized that if I had an imperfectly random source (something less than 100% unpredictable), that compressing the output would compress it to the point where it was nearly so.