Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-28 Thread dan
> It would also help quite a bit if we had better encapsulation > technology. Binary plug-ins for browsers are generally a bad > idea -- having things like video players in separate processes > where operating system facilities can be used to cage them more > effectively would also help to mitigat

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-27 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Jerry Leichter writes: > On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >> Jerry Leichter writes: >>> While I agree with the sentiment and the theory, I'm not sure that it >>> really works that way. How many actual implementations of typical >>> protocols are there? >> > I'm aware of at

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-27 Thread John Gilmore
> > While I agree with the sentiment and the theory, I'm not sure that it > > really works that way. How many actual implementations of typical > > protocols are there? For Adobe Flash, there are three separate implementations -- Adobe's proprietary one, GNU Gnash, and Swfdec. Gnash is focused o

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Perry E. Metzger" writes: >Jerry Leichter writes: >> One way or another, a single implementation usually wins out in the >> OSS community. > >See above -- even counting only open source, we have *many* implementations. >Heck, there are even multiple independent open source SSL, SSH and PGP >impl

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-27 Thread Peter Gutmann
"Perry E. Metzger" writes: >This highlights an unfortunate instance of monoculture -- nearly everyone on >the internet uses Flash for nearly all the video they watch, so just about >everyone in the world is using a binary module from a single vendor day in, >day out. There are quite a number of

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-27 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 26, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: Jerry Leichter writes: While I agree with the sentiment and the theory, I'm not sure that it really works that way. How many actual implementations of typical protocols are there? I'm aware of at least four TCP/IP implementations in comm

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Jerry Leichter writes: > While I agree with the sentiment and the theory, I'm not sure that it > really works that way. How many actual implementations of typical > protocols are there? I'm aware of at least four TCP/IP implementations in common use, several common HTTP servers (though there ar

Re: The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-26 Thread Jerry Leichter
On Jul 26, 2009, at 2:27 PM, Perry E. Metzger wrote: ...[T]here is an exploitable hole in Adobe's "Flash" right now, and there is no fix available yet This highlights an unfortunate instance of monoculture -- nearly everyone on the internet uses Flash for nearly all the video they watch, s

The latest Flash vulnerability and monoculture

2009-07-26 Thread Perry E. Metzger
This is purely about security, not on crypto. For those of you not in the know, there is an exploitable hole in Adobe's "Flash" right now, and there is no fix available yet: http://www.adobe.com/support/security/advisories/apsa09-03.html (See also: http://www.us-cert.gov/cas/techalerts/TA09-204