Re: traffic analysis of phone calls?

2003-07-12 Thread Peter Gutmann
Don Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >with similar import, here's cringely's article on insecure CALEA >workstations: A friend of mine who used to work for a large telco ended up being delegated to attend some of the CALEA meetings. He reports that the FBI were totally unable to comprehend that

Re: traffic analysis of phone calls?

2003-07-12 Thread David Honig
At 11:21 AM 7/12/03 -0400, Don Davis wrote: > It often does not lie behind a firewall. Heck, it > usually doesn't even lie behind a door. It has a direct > connection to the Internet because, believe it or not, > that is how the wiretap data is collected and transmitted." I believe the CALEA specs

Re: traffic analysis of phone calls?

2003-07-12 Thread Vin McLellan
Personal (Use it if you'd like, but keep me out of it.) Steve Bellovin wrote: Slightly off-topic, but a reminder of the sort of thing that ordinary crypto doesn't hide. http://www.silicon.com/news/59-51/1/5093.html?rolling=2 IT Myths: Colombian drugs gang's mainframe-assisted assassinatio

Re: traffic analysis of phone calls?

2003-07-12 Thread Don Davis
> Slightly off-topic, but a reminder of the sort of thing that > ordinary crypto doesn't hide. > > http://www.silicon.com/news/59-51/1/5093.html?rolling=2 > > IT Myths: Colombian drugs gang's mainframe-assisted assassinations? > Did drugs barons really use multi-million pound systems to see

traffic analysis of phone calls?

2003-07-12 Thread Steve Bellovin
Slightly off-topic, but a reminder of the sort of thing that ordinary crypto doesn't hide. http://www.silicon.com/news/59-51/1/5093.html?rolling=2 IT Myths: Colombian drugs gang's mainframe-assisted assassinations? Did drugs barons really use multi-million pound systems to see who was gra