Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-28 Thread Peter Gutmann
Jonathan Thornburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Melting the CD should work... but in practice that takes a specialized oven (I seriously doubt my home oven gets hot enough), and is likely to produce toxic fumes, and leave behind a sticky mess (stuck to the surface of the specialized oven). For no

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-28 Thread Travis H.
There are various versions of getting rid of a disk file. 2) Zeroizing the blocks in place (followed by deletion). This is vastly better, but still not entirely secure, because there are typically stray remnants of the pattern sitting beside the nominal track, and a

Re: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-28 Thread Dave Howe
John Denker wrote: Dave Howe wrote: Hmm. can you selectively blank areas of CD-RW? Sure, you can. It isn't s much different from rewriting any other type of disk. Yeah, I know. just unsure how effective blanking is on cd-rw for (say) a pattern that has been in residence for two

RE: thoughts on one time pads

2006-01-28 Thread Trei, Peter
You missed the old standby - the microwave oven. The disk remains physically intact (at least after the 5 seconds or so I've tried), but a great deal of pretty arcing occurs in the conductive data layer. Where the arcs travel, the data layer is vapourized. The end result is an otherwise intact

Re: a crypto wiki

2006-01-28 Thread Dave Howe
Anton Stiglic wrote: I agree. The cryptodox page looks nice, but I would rather see the content go in wikipedia, which is worked on, and looked at, by many more people, a really beautiful community work. There is also the wiki crypto wikibook, which is sorta a co-production and shares a lot of