RE: Russian cyberwar against Estonia?

2007-05-19 Thread Trei, Peter
Dave Korn wrote: On 18 May 2007 05:44, Alex Alten wrote: This may be a bit off the crypto topic, You betcha! but it is interesting nonetheless. Russia accused of unleashing cyberwar to disable Estonia http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,329864981-103610,00.html Estonia accuses Russia

0wned .gov machines (was Re: Russian cyberwar against Estonia?)

2007-05-19 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. Do you have any particular evidence that any significant number of US .gov machines are bots? They may well be, just I haven't heard this. I've heard nothing formal, but my strong understanding is a lot of US government machines, at least if we're

Re: 0wned .gov machines (was Re: Russian cyberwar against Estonia?)

2007-05-19 Thread Adam Shostack
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: | | Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | 1. Do you have any particular evidence that any significant | number of US .gov machines are bots? They may well be, just | I haven't heard this. | | I've heard nothing formal, but

Re: 0wned .gov machines (was Re: Russian cyberwar against Estonia?)

2007-05-19 Thread Ivan Krstić
Perry E. Metzger wrote: What is interesting to me is that, even though things have nearly gotten as bad as they could possibly get, we still have seen very little real effort made to improve systems security (at least in comparison with what is necessary to make a big dent). I think it's

Re: 0wned .gov machines

2007-05-19 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Adam Shostack [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 05:01:03PM -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: | | Trei, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: | 1. Do you have any particular evidence that any significant | number of US .gov machines are bots? They may well be, just | I haven't