Re: How far is the NSA ahead of the public crypto community?

2008-05-09 Thread Leichter, Jerry
An interesting datapoint I've always had on this question: Back in 1975 or so, a mathematician I knew (actually, he was a friend's PhD advisor) left academia to go work for the NSA. Obviously, he couldn't say anything at all about what he would be doing. The guy's specialty was algebraic

Re: It seems being in an explosion isn't enough...

2008-05-09 Thread Leichter, Jerry
On Thu, 8 May 2008, Perry E. Metzger wrote: | Quoting: | |It was one of the most iconic and heart-stopping movie images of |2003: the Columbia Space Shuttle ignited, burning and crashing to |earth in fragments. | |Now, amazingly, data from a hard drive recovered from the

[ACM DRM 2008] submission server open

2008-05-09 Thread Joye Marc
Dear all, The submission server for ACM DRM 2008 is open (submission deadline: May 23). Details follow. Best regards, -Greg and Marc. -- Call for Papers EIGHTH ACM DRM WORKSHOP

From FDE list...

2008-05-09 Thread Allen
[Moderator's note: lightly edited. Please stick to ASCII and lines under 80 columns if possible. --Perry] A gentleman on the FDE list posted the link: http://biz.yahoo.com/nytimes/080509/1194773259639.html?.v=1 and in it is the following quote: Last month, the Pentagon's Defense Advanced

Re: How far is the NSA ahead of the public crypto community?

2008-05-09 Thread Matt Blaze
On May 8, 2008, at 19:08, Leichter, Jerry wrote: An interesting datapoint I've always had on this question: Back in 1975 or so, a mathematician I knew (actually, he was a friend's PhD advisor) left academia to go work for the NSA. Obviously, he couldn't say anything at all about what he

Re: It seems being in an explosion isn't enough...

2008-05-09 Thread Ali, Saqib
Edwards said the Seagate hard drive -- which was about eight years old in 2003 -- featured much greater fault tolerance and durability than current hard drives of similar capacity. I am not so sure about this statement. The newer drives are far more ruggedized and

Re: It seems being in an explosion isn't enough...

2008-05-09 Thread Leichter, Jerry
On Fri, 9 May 2008, Ali, Saqib wrote: | Edwards said the Seagate hard drive -- which was | about eight years old in 2003 -- featured much | greater fault tolerance and durability than current | hard drives of similar capacity. | | I am not so sure about this

Re: How far is the NSA ahead of the public crypto community?

2008-05-09 Thread Sampo Syreeni
On 2008-05-09, Matt Blaze wrote: The guy's specialty was algebraic geometry - a hot field at the time. This is the area of mathematics that studied eliptic curves many years before anyone realized they had any application to cryptography. [...] I've heard similar recollections of

Re: It seems being in an explosion isn't enough...

2008-05-09 Thread mark seiden-via mac
i think the issue may simply devolve to lower areal density in the old drives. i.e. the bits are bigger. does anyone know if they used encodings that were more tolerant of certain kinds of errors in the past which are less common (and so, not worth doing) than now? On May 9, 2008, at