Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread David G. Koontz
Jim Youll wrote: these have been circulating for hours, but they are content-free title slides... On Aug 9, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Ivan Krstić wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of

Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread Jim Youll
On Aug 9, 2008, at 8:46 PM, Jim Youll wrote: these have been circulating for hours, but they are content-free title slides... [Moderator's note: I've read them and they're far from content free. They give you a recipe for doing things like rewriting the mag stripes on stored value cards to

Re: Judge approves TRO to stop DEFCON presentation

2008-08-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 19:38:45 -0400 Ivan Krsti__ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 09 Aug 2008 17:11:11 -0400, Perry E. Metzger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Las Vegas - Three students at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) were ordered this morning by a federal court

Re: security questions

2008-08-10 Thread John Levine
IIRC, it used personal data already available to DEC -- so they didn't have to ask their employees for it That works great so long as the personal data is accurate. Banks these days are supposed to verify your identity when you open an account. Online banks pull your credit report anyway, so