ACH fraud

2008-09-01 Thread Perry E. Metzger
Several people have sent in a link to a New York Times story on ACH fraud: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/30/business/yourmoney/30theft.html Perry -- Perry E. Metzger[EMAIL PROTECTED] - The Cryptography

Re: [OpenID] rfc2817: https vs http

2008-09-01 Thread Ben Laurie
[Adding the cryptography list, since this seems of interest] On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Story Henry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently rfc2817 allows an http url tp be used for https security. Given that Apache seems to have that implemented [1] and that the openid url is mostly used

Re: [OpenID] rfc2817: https vs http

2008-09-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:00:55 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: The core issue is that HTTPS is used to establish end-to-end security, meaning, in particular, authentication and secrecy. If the MitM can disable the upgrade to HTTPS then he defeats this aim. The fact that the server declines to serve an

Re: [OpenID] rfc2817: https vs http

2008-09-01 Thread Ben Laurie
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:00:55 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: The core issue is that HTTPS is used to establish end-to-end security, meaning, in particular, authentication and secrecy. If the MitM can disable the upgrade to HTTPS

Re: [OpenID] rfc2817: https vs http

2008-09-01 Thread Eric Rescorla
At Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:56:52 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 9:49 PM, Eric Rescorla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At Mon, 1 Sep 2008 21:00:55 +0100, Ben Laurie wrote: The core issue is that HTTPS is used to establish end-to-end security, meaning, in particular, authentication